Dominus wrote on 2021-03-09, 10:59:

Just a friendly reminder that posting ebay links is still frowned upon and I might clean the thread soonish

So. Basically, just because it is on eBay, then it is a no-go? As an example. If I posted link to a newly produced Furia020 sold by sordan on eBay, then it would not be alowed. However if I posted a link for the exact same product on sordan's regulair webshop, then it would be alowed? Wich means that posting a link to cheap shrink-tube from China, is not alowed on Vogons?

Just checking up if I understand it correctly.

brostenen wrote on 2021-03-09, 13:31:

Dominus wrote on 2021-03-09, 10:59:

Just a friendly reminder that posting ebay links is still frowned upon and I might clean the thread soonish

So. Basically, just because it is on eBay, then it is a no-go? As an example. If I posted link to a newly produced Furia020 sold by sordan on eBay, then it would not be alowed. However if I posted a link for the exact same product on sordan's regulair webshop, then it would be alowed? Wich means that posting a link to cheap shrink-tube from China, is not alowed on Vogons?

Just checking up if I understand it correctly.

It's promotion of active user sales/auctions that is frowned upon. Doesn't matter if its Ebay, Amibay or other external site.

Closed auctions you can link to, same with items from stores (direct sale-ads not allowed).

imi wrote on 2021-03-09, 10:57:

CMB75 wrote on 2021-03-09, 06:39:

Some generic DB15 to DB15+MIDI cables…
DB15-to-DB15-and-MIDI.jpg

I've got fooled by these fancy cables before, they have no opto-isolators or any other components inside 😒

connectors are decent though, so you can modify them.

I figured they might be junk. That's why I chose the ones which aren't glued, so I do have the connectors (still cheaper than ordering the connectors separately).

I added a dell dimension 9200 to my array of older system yesterday that I got from a friend for sorting out his current win 10 desktop and laptop

it has been upgraded from 1 to 2 GB DDR2 at some point and somebody installed win 10 on it

needless to say this system is much better suited for windows xp

Im considering swapping its nvidia geforce 7900GS??? card to a radeon x600 card

unsure about the nvidia card since neither cpu z or gpu z can say much about it

vetz wrote on 2021-03-09, 13:43:

brostenen wrote on 2021-03-09, 13:31:

Dominus wrote on 2021-03-09, 10:59:

Just a friendly reminder that posting ebay links is still frowned upon and I might clean the thread soonish

So. Basically, just because it is on eBay, then it is a no-go? As an example. If I posted link to a newly produced Furia020 sold by sordan on eBay, then it would not be alowed. However if I posted a link for the exact same product on sordan's regulair webshop, then it would be alowed? Wich means that posting a link to cheap shrink-tube from China, is not alowed on Vogons?

Just checking up if I understand it correctly.

It's promotion of active user sales/auctions that is frowned upon. Doesn't matter if its Ebay, Amibay or other external site.

Closed auctions you can link to, same with items from stores (direct sale-ads not allowed).

I see. It is basically a shop that sell new case badges that I linked to on eBay. Newly produced stuff that is. If the owner of the shop is a Vogons member then I am sorry that I linked to it.

brostenen wrote on 2021-03-09, 15:48:

I see. It is basically a shop that sell new case badges that I linked to on eBay. Newly produced stuff that is. If the owner of the shop is a Vogons member then I am sorry that I linked to it.

I'd say that is OK as long as the link is provided in proper context and doesn't fall under promotion/advertisement of said product or store. Example of proper context: there is a thread where case badges is discussed, someone asks were he can get X case badge, you then reply with link to a store selling it. Not proper context: you create a thread/post and says that a store has lots of badges for sale for a low price.

By saying "user" above I didn't mean specifically vogons members, but private persons in general. When we allowed people to link to private sales/auctions in the past that unfortunately got exploited and it created drama and tension. A store is considered a business and generally sell stuff for a fixed price with a larger inventory, so the whole transaction is unbiased and professional, therefore there is a distinction.

Do notice that we have an exception for community created projects, like keropi's Orpheus Soundcard, but it has to be presented as a project with community interaction and sales/ordering be done outside VOGONS.

debs3759 wrote on 2021-03-09, 10:17:

debs3759 wrote on 2021-03-07, 21:55:

Just bought this ATI WinCharger 1MB 113-32100-105 (I think it's the first revision) for £8.20 shipped. Didn't expect to win it for the opening bid 😀 Seller's pic

Oh well, it woulda been nice. Seller just refunded me, saying he got it out of storage on Saturday (so how had he photographed it?) and has since lost it 🙁

I'm now bidding on a later revision. Bit more expensive, but hey ho.

Won the later version for just over a tenner shipped. New collecting goal is to get the full Mach8 to Mach64 reference card set. And sort my collection to see which I already have 😀

vetz wrote on 2021-03-09, 16:16:

I'd say that is OK as long as the link is provided in proper context and doesn't fall under promotion/advertisement of said prod […]
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brostenen wrote on 2021-03-09, 15:48:

I see. It is basically a shop that sell new case badges that I linked to on eBay. Newly produced stuff that is. If the owner of the shop is a Vogons member then I am sorry that I linked to it.

I'd say that is OK as long as the link is provided in proper context and doesn't fall under promotion/advertisement of said product or store. Example of proper context: there is a thread where case badges is discussed, someone asks were he can get X case badge, you then reply with link to a store selling it. Not proper context: you create a thread/post and says that a store has lots of badges for sale for a low price.

By saying "user" above I didn't mean specifically vogons members, but private persons in general. When we allowed people to link to private sales/auctions in the past that unfortunately got exploited and it created drama and tension. A store is considered a business and generally sell stuff for a fixed price with a larger inventory, so the whole transaction is unbiased and professional, therefore there is a distinction.

Do notice that we have an exception for community created projects, like keropi's Orpheus Soundcard, but it has to be presented as a project with community interaction and sales/ordering be done outside VOGONS.

Ahhh... Thanks for the clearing up. 😀
In context that is in the future.

debs3759 wrote on 2021-03-09, 17:29:

Won the later version for just over a tenner shipped. New collecting goal is to get the full Mach8 to Mach64 reference card set. And sort my collection to see which I already have 😀

Nice. I have personal attachment to the WinCharger model as it was the card I used in my Pentium PC back in 1996.

I picked this 420EX Aries 486 board. It is interesting as all other 420EX boards I've seen only had PCI slots. This is the first 486 board with Intel chipset and VL-Bus I have.

mpe wrote on 2021-03-09, 19:37:

debs3759 wrote on 2021-03-09, 17:29:

Won the later version for just over a tenner shipped. New collecting goal is to get the full Mach8 to Mach64 reference card set. And sort my collection to see which I already have 😀

Nice. I have personal attachment to the WinCharger model as it was the card I used in my Pentium PC back in 1996.

I need to finish organising my work area, then I'll probably test it in my Batman's Revenge board, and dual boot DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11 and 98SE (I must get 98lite for that though, not sure if that's fully functional if I can't register it)

mpe wrote on 2021-03-09, 19:37:

Nice. I have personal attachment to the WinCharger model as it was the card I used in my Pentium PC back in 1996. […]
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debs3759 wrote on 2021-03-09, 17:29:

Won the later version for just over a tenner shipped. New collecting goal is to get the full Mach8 to Mach64 reference card set. And sort my collection to see which I already have 😀

Nice. I have personal attachment to the WinCharger model as it was the card I used in my Pentium PC back in 1996.

I picked this 420EX Aries 486 board. It is interesting as all other 420EX boards I've seen only had PCI slots. This is the first 486 board with Intel chipset and VL-Bus I have.

What a nice clean layout. VLB + pci... big score there man

mpe wrote on 2021-03-09, 19:37:

I picked this 420EX Aries 486 board. It is interesting as all other 420EX boards I've seen only had PCI slots. This is the first […]
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I picked this 420EX Aries 486 board. It is interesting as all other 420EX boards I've seen only had PCI slots. This is the first 486 board with Intel chipset and VL-Bus I have.

Cool board! Not many jumpers, though?

H3nrik V! wrote on 2021-03-10, 06:44:

mpe wrote on 2021-03-09, 19:37:

I picked this 420EX Aries 486 board. It is interesting as all other 420EX boards I've seen only had PCI slots. This is the first […]
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I picked this 420EX Aries 486 board. It is interesting as all other 420EX boards I've seen only had PCI slots. This is the first 486 board with Intel chipset and VL-Bus I have.

Cool board! Not many jumpers, though?

Now that you mention it. Where are the jumperforests at? 😮
I can't remember ever having seen a standard baby-AT 486 board with this few jumpers. That or perhaps the jumpers came on a separate PCB or something 😜 (yes I'm joking. Now that would've been something 🤣)

There are actually jumpers incl. many undocumented if you look closely 😀

https://arvutimuuseum.ee/th99/m/A-B/32220.htm

486 boards with Intel chipsets are quite streamlined. They focus on processors with P24D-like pinout. So they don't need to alternate WB cache pins, altenative SL implementations, etc. like other motherboards that had to support Cx486, UMC486 or Cyrix DX4 pinout (which hardly anyone really needs anyway). They just wire everything most people want them to be wired.

I think there are pins to set bus speed and switch between SX and non-SX CPU (to route co-processor signals if at all required).

Voltage can be auto sorted by VOLTDET pin so no 3.3V/5V switching necessary.

I just got a Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo which appears to be in very good condition:

I mainly bought it because I wanted a card with genuine OPL3 which also has Digital Out, and this one delivers on both ends. It's a Yamaha YMF744B-V and it has optical out (TOSLINK) which is perfect for my needs. I can now capture pristine, noise-free OPL3 recordings from my favorite DOS games. Haven't had a chance to test it yet, but will do so over the next couple of days. Fingers crossed!

I bought a nice SIEMENS PG 750 D luggable unit, used to program SIEMENS SIMATIC S5 PLC's.
It is in a really great shape, a little bit dirty on the outside and some dust on the inside.
It looks to be a complete unit but without the hard drive...
In the following days I will clean it up and try to power it up to see if it is still working... To bad it has a proprietary power supply 🙁
If someone of you has some docs or info on this system, a share would be much appreciated!

Here are some more pictures from my cloud drive.

I don't usually buy hardware in boxed state.

But when I do...

dionb wrote on 2021-03-10, 17:19:

I don't usually buy hardware in boxed state.

But when I do...

nice :3

got a small generic VGA CRT for really cheap...

and a nice 486 SBC with a Am486DX4-100V16BGC...

idk about you, but these sure look like fakes to me, and not even good ones ^^ the printing is wavy and the paint/sticker? seems to be getting scratched off
the sellers pic was low-res enough to make me believe for a second these could actually be real x3

also not really retro but related... something to poke around safely inside CRTs ^^

imi wrote on 2021-03-10, 18:07:

idk about you, but these sure look like fakes to me, and not even good ones ^^ the printing is wavy and the paint/sticker? seems to be getting scratched off
the sellers pic was low-res enough to make me believe for a second these could actually be real x3

The labels do look dubious... but they seem to have '96 datecodes, like the rest of the components on the board. So whether they are real or fake, I would guess those came with the board originally, unless someone later on got chips with '96 dates, which would be quite a coincidence.

Excellent, does this have nearly 1 inch long screw on tip to slip under the suction cup? HV probe grounded to the CRT's grounding strap is also useful to detect leakage by hovering close to anything to find the leak and listen for different noise.

We found many leaks with this method. One had pinhole in rubber suction cup and one time we found a pinhole in frit seal that bonds face glass to the glass bell.

Cheers,