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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 38740 of 40005, by EvieSigma

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flupke11 wrote on 2021-04-16, 22:02:

Free Antec full tower with 2 SCSI Plextor drivers (only reason I drove 150 km to get it). Some Asus socket 940 mainboard on the inside and some IDE/SATA drives, but I'm chuffed that I finally have the Plextor SCSI back I wanted.
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is that a SCSI Zip drive too? Internal SCSI Zip drives are quite uncommon, if it works and you don't want it you could easily sell it for a decent sum.

Reply 38741 of 40005, by Horun

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imi wrote on 2021-04-16, 20:12:

soo... I got another mystery PC ^^

Nice find, the Asus 386 mobo is fantastic ! Too bad about the Compaq (but personally hate those all-in-ones).

flupke11 wrote on 2021-04-16, 22:02:

Free Antec full tower with 2 SCSI Plextor drivers (only reason I drove 150 km to get it). Some Asus socket 940 mainboard on the inside and some IDE/SATA drives, but I'm chuffed that I finally have the Plextor SCSI back I wanted.
Got three AT-boxes for € 50, one has a low-end onboard TI 486SLC with a socketed coprocessor, the others have 430FX based Pentium boards, nothing fancy and probably a low-end P54C.
I've never seen ULSI as a brand of processing units.

Good price on all that !

MKT_Gundam wrote on 2021-04-16, 22:04:

I got a Rendition Vérité V2100 at recycle center.
Is this card better than Rage/II for DOS and early 3d games?

Check this topic here: Rendition Verite Thread

Ok so today stopped at TC thrift store (my fav in this town) and got a Micron Millennia Mme tower plus Micron CRT 17" monitor for $125 USD total plus two NOS old AT/PS2 keyboards (one a Mouse Systems the other a Memorex) for $5 USD
(with my senior discount ). They gave me a 3 day return if they do not work but I have high hopes. Have not tested anything yet but they let me open the tower before purchase and everything was there including original Micron screw-on blue heatsink.
Hopefully it all works. Here is a picture of PC+CRT after loading on the pickup truck:

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Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 38743 of 40005, by Horun

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imi wrote on 2021-04-17, 00:46:

that Micron system looks mint... also is that a trinitron?

Have not had a chance to look much up yet. Just unloaded them and here is a tag on back, maybe you can help figure out what the monitor is ?
Please check the monitor spec and let me know, a quick check at the store yielded very little and other were asking about the set so had little time...
Forgot to mention: is missing the original monitor stand but can easier fab one from other things 😉

Yes the tower is in near mint with no yellowing, cracks, etc anywhere, the monitor has a little yellowing on the left side towards bottom of the case but front is still clean.
The mobo is a Intel AN430TX with MMX cpu and HS is not fully centered (why I did not power it up at the store when I examined)..
After I check em over a bit more will see if they work. Please check the monitor as a quick check at the store yielded very little...

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Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 38744 of 40005, by imi

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your first picture looked like the crt was only curved in one direction (clear identifier of a trinitron tube), but looking up the model number and seeing more pictures it is not, still very nice though ^^

Reply 38745 of 40005, by Horun

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imi wrote on 2021-04-17, 01:31:

your first picture looked like the crt was only curved in one direction (clear identifier of a trinitron tube), but looking up the model number and seeing more pictures it is not, still very nice though ^^

Thanks ! Monitor works just fine. Computer works (after re-gooping / resetting the Heatsink, <old white goop had dried to dust 😀 > )
PSU was wary to try but my good PSU tester with load said it good so am not swapping it out....yet. Floppy works, CDrom works but HD sputters and is not detected. MMX-200 with 64Mb ram and 512K cache (was hoping 1MB).
So just need a diff HD..... am happy with it being a matched set from 1997. And it has Yamaha sound chips on board which is a plus....

ADDED: reseated IDE cables and power and now HD seems to work but am not sure for how long...booted to Winderz 95 heheee

Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 38746 of 40005, by PD2JK

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flupke11 wrote on 2021-04-16, 22:02:

Free Antec full tower with 2 SCSI Plextor drivers (only reason I drove 150 km to get it). Some Asus socket 940 mainboard on the inside and some IDE/SATA drives, but I'm chuffed that I finally have the Plextor SCSI back I wanted.
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That's not an Antec, but the legendary AOpen HX08! Nice catch. It can survive WW3 if it must.

Highscreen AT: Pentium 60@66 MHz
Highscreen ATX: Athlon Classic 1 GHz

Reply 38747 of 40005, by flupke11

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EvieSigma wrote on 2021-04-16, 23:53:

is that a SCSI Zip drive too? Internal SCSI Zip drives are quite uncommon, if it works and you don't want it you could easily sell it for a decent sum.

It is indeed, the two Plextor drives and the Zip were connected to (yet another) Adaptec 2940UW. I'll turn this tower (Aopen indeed, my apologies) into a 2001 SCSI powerhouse.

Reply 38748 of 40005, by PcBytes

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Have managed to buy myself a nice lot comprised of:

- 1x ASUS VL/ISA 486SV2 w/ 486DX2 (unknown speed, but it's a Intel chip)
- 1x PCChips M577 w/ Cyrix M2
- 2x S3 GPUs - one I suspect being a Trio 3D/2X since it's AGP, no idea about the other except it's a PCI card
- 1x Winfast A6200TD 128MB

Will post photos once they arrive and after I clean all the boards. (the M577 is horribly dirty but the fact that it comes w/ a Cyrix makes me think it works alright.)

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98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB
Milennium : P2 266, Zida LX-98AT, 256MB RAM, 10GB+20GB
2k: Duron 750, Totem TM-S730LMR, 256MB RAM, 40GB

Reply 38749 of 40005, by mpe

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PC-Chips M919 with hilarious dummy L2 cache in the top right corner (and luckily also the actual COAST module in the slot).

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And two elusive 15ns ED RAM SIMM modules.

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Reply 38750 of 40005, by PD2JK

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Indeed, look at those tracks. Infinite L2 cache! I wonder what the board designer was thinking at that moment...and I'm wondering if there is actually a memory die in that chip package.

Highscreen AT: Pentium 60@66 MHz
Highscreen ATX: Athlon Classic 1 GHz

Reply 38751 of 40005, by megatron-uk

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mpe wrote on 2021-04-17, 09:47:
And two elusive 15ns ED RAM SIMM modules. […]
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And two elusive 15ns ED RAM SIMM modules.

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EDRAM modules are insanely hard to find!

I have two Transputer modules that are each fitted with 2MB of EDRAM. From what I can gather these parts are now impossible to replace:

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My understanding is that they have a small amount of SRAM embedded in each DRAM chip, is that correct?

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Reply 38752 of 40005, by keropi

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PD2JK wrote on 2021-04-17, 15:04:

Indeed, look at those tracks. Infinite L2 cache! I wonder what the board designer was thinking at that moment...and I'm wondering if there is actually a memory die in that chip package.

IIRC those chips are just chunks of plastic with nothing in them. This was a predetermined fraud.

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Reply 38753 of 40005, by megatron-uk

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keropi wrote on 2021-04-17, 17:17:
PD2JK wrote on 2021-04-17, 15:04:

Indeed, look at those tracks. Infinite L2 cache! I wonder what the board designer was thinking at that moment...and I'm wondering if there is actually a memory die in that chip package.

IIRC those chips are just chunks of plastic with nothing in them. This was a predetermined fraud.

Yes, it's been extensively proven (I believe even x-rays were used at the time this scandal hit the market) that they are simply empty plastic packages.

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Reply 38754 of 40005, by Horun

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imi wrote on 2021-04-17, 01:31:

your first picture looked like the crt was only curved in one direction (clear identifier of a trinitron tube), but looking up the model number and seeing more pictures it is not, still very nice though ^^

Looked in side and is a 17" Hitachi labeled tube assembled by Capetronic Corp, 16" viewable 0.26dp. Will do 1600x1200 @60Hz max res.

Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 38755 of 40005, by Ozzuneoj

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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-04-13, 22:50:
Aggghhh.. a boxed PAS. Wish I would have seen it. […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2021-04-13, 18:58:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-04-10, 19:38:

Finally found a Pro Audio Spectrum Plus... The card in between the PAS 8-bit dual OPL2 card and the PAS16.

It was mislabeled but I immediately recognized it from the pics.

I saw that a week or so ago... those are pretty hard to find! I was interested but didn't want to spend that much since I'd found one a couple years ago as well.

I keep shaking my head thinking about the 1st gen PAS that was sold, with box, a couple months ago for almost nothing.

Aggghhh.. a boxed PAS. Wish I would have seen it.

I only have a bare card which is enough for me, but I like archiving the old box art, manuals and disks.

I'm not seeing it. Do you have a link to the original listing?

It must have been more than a couple months, I can't find it either. I can't even find a single picture of a boxed PAS online. 🙁

EDIT: This is driving me mad. I even checked my saved sellers and can't find it. Time has flown by... maybe it was before January, which wouldn't show up on ebay anymore. I wish I would have at least saved the pictures. I was just so disgusted... at the time I was checking for stuff like that daily, as well as using saved searches and still managed to miss it. 🤣

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Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 38756 of 40005, by mpe

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megatron-uk wrote on 2021-04-17, 17:15:

My understanding is that they have a small amount of SRAM embedded in each DRAM chip, is that correct?

Yes there is 8KB of fast embeded cache (or 512B per 1MB DRAM) which allows for eliminating latencies during reads/writes (zero waitstates up to 133 MHz).

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Reply 38757 of 40005, by BLockOUT

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bought this for $10 dollars today
im not a fan of pcchips, to be honest i really try to stay the hell away from them. But this board alone is being sold on ebay for....133 DOLLARS? WTF !!!

included on the price i paid: 2 memory sticks, cpu fan, k6-2 350, all brackets, a bunch of IDE cables, floppy drive, modem card and an old sis video card.

and thanks to archive.org i was able to get a motherboard cdrom iso from pcchips that included many models (this one included)

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Reply 38758 of 40005, by liqmat

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2021-04-17, 18:41:

It must have been more than a couple months, I can't find it either. I can't even find a single picture of a boxed PAS online. 🙁

EDIT: This is driving me mad. I even checked my saved sellers and can't find it. Time has flown by... maybe it was before January, which wouldn't show up on ebay anymore. I wish I would have at least saved the pictures. I was just so disgusted... at the time I was checking for stuff like that daily, as well as using saved searches and still managed to miss it. 🤣

Because Ebay deletes everything, I now save Ebay item pages to the Wayback Machine so I can reference them later. Been a life saver for me.