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Different Versions of Ensoniq AudioPCI

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Reply 20 of 36, by channelmaniac

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Merry early Christmas courtesy Computer Reset in Dallas.

I picked up an Ensoniq ES1370 based PCI sound card and it came with v2.0 of the driver CD. I found this thread looking around for info on the card and thought I'd share the freshly uploaded .iso image of the software/driver CD that came with the card.

It includes Win95, Win3.1x, DOS, and WinNT drivers/software.

https://archive.org/details/audio-pci-by-enso … 00-installation

Yeah, I know... archive.org... Feel free to upload whatever you want from that to Vogons. 😀

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Reply 21 of 36, by betamax80

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I'm not sure if it is listed anywhere else - but for ES1371-based models with SPDIF capability, the cable expected is a mono 3.5mm headphone <> Single RCA. Info found in an HP doc.

Reply 22 of 36, by betamax80

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If not covered I think the EMU10k1X cards would be those marketed as the "PCI512". These were sold for around £79 (then £49) I remember in the UK in the early 2000s, and they seem to be highly integrated / cost reduced SB Live! Value relatives. There are reports the the "full fat" SB Live! drivers work with them, however Creative also had PCI512-specific driver updates listed.

Reply 23 of 36, by betamax80

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I've got a card listed at the "Creative SoundBlaster Digital 4.1" on its way - from pictures this seems to be the listed CT4750 card with a CT5880CQN chip on it - apparently with a SigmaTel codec, and according to some sources with an EEPROM. I'm aware that this card does the SP/DIF output for sure, and the box does list EAX which from an ES137x based chip seems a surprised.... I'm wondering if its a software thing, or whether the EEPROM holds some magic?

Reply 24 of 36, by Sly_Botts

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Rawit wrote on 2021-02-08, 08:38:

Does the Ensoniq 1370 with Ensoniq drivers offer an option for Ensoniq Soundscape only under DOS? So no Sound Blaster including FM? I've seen attempts to disable only the FM, but can the Sound Blaster inc. FM be disabled all together?

And the 1370 is incompatible with the Creative drivers? Vendor ID check?

If you install the Ensoniq audioPCI 3.1 wizard through windows 3.1 it will install DOS drivers. If you keep that folder, you can install DOS 6.22 by it self, use this folder and setup autoexec.bat to load the .bat file in the folder and it will work. Make sure soundscape.ini is configured the way you want, and it will work fine.

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Reply 25 of 36, by SteveC

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Just been fighting a Creative CT4740 for hours - it's a Ensoniq 1373. Turns out the VEN_1274&DEV_1371 wasn't matching. I had Vendor ID of 1264 and 1234 depending on the PCI slot I put the card in! Eventually the third slot I tried it in gave me the correct vendor ID. Never had this problem before!

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Reply 26 of 36, by capitaine

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This is new to me also.
Seems confirmed by the data sheet which basically says the card can have different identities (Subsystem read/write)

https://www.dosdays.co.uk/media/ensoniq/Audio … 3_datasheet.pdf
4.13. User Definable Subsystem Vendor ID and Subsystem ID

The 1373 device powers-up/resets with Subsystem Vendor ID = ENSONIQ ID (1274h), and the Subsystem ID = 1371h. The device specifi […]
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The 1373 device powers-up/resets with Subsystem Vendor ID = ENSONIQ ID (1274h), and the
Subsystem ID = 1371h. The device specific register (SubSysID_wen @40h) is initialized to 00h which
disables Subsystem writes.
As long as the SubSysID_wen byte is NOT EQUAL TO EAh, the Subsystem Vendor ID and Subsystem
ID cannot be changed. When the SubSysID_wen byte is set to EAh, the Subsystem Vendor ID and
Subsystem ID values can be modified by PCI Configuration Space writes.
(Note: that the BIOS in control may write these items as WORD, DWORD, or even BYTE.)

Reply 27 of 36, by andre_6

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Hello, I just created a thread to find working Win95/DOS drivers for a CT4810 until I saw this, I was getting the impression that these are difficult cards to deal with drivers wise.

As a beginner I was kind of confused by the OP's list, can anyone please point me out to the working driver files for it? Thank you in advance

Reply 28 of 36, by dr.zeissler

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Excellent informations! I have read them carefully...just in short:

- ES1373 never works in Dos on AladinChipset on my acer-board. Regardless plain dos or Doswindow within Win95.
- It gives me no error back but it simply does not work at all.
- Beside that ES1373 seems to be different than ES1371 because the OS/2 driver for the ES1371 dos not work for ES1373.
- Win95 and Amithlon works fine with ES1373 on this machine.

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Reply 29 of 36, by dr.zeissler

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CT5803 with seems to be a 1373 and does work in sb-emu just fine.

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Reply 30 of 36, by AlienFirefox

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hey all

I just signed up because I noticed you folks mention drivers for the CT4730

doers anyone have these drivers for windows 98 se?

I really need them as I am trying to build a windows 98 se retro pc and I can't for the life of me find these drivers

thank you

Reply 31 of 36, by dormcat

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AlienFirefox wrote on 2024-08-18, 03:24:
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hey all

I just signed up because I noticed you folks mention drivers for the CT4730

doers anyone have these drivers for windows 98 se?

I really need them as I am trying to build a windows 98 se retro pc and I can't for the life of me find these drivers

thank you

CT4730 uses EV1938 so try this driver. This one is also applicable to EV1938 chip.

Reply 32 of 36, by dormcat

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yawetaG wrote on 2020-02-23, 10:17:

Tidbit of information about the AudioPCI 5000:

This is a OEM version that was used by Gateway 2000, amongst others. It has better AD/DA conversion than the standard models (see old Ensoniq website on Internet Archive.).

Also, I see you have it listed as using a ES1371 chip, but mine uses the ES1370 chip.

Got mine bundled with a Quantex P2-400 (based on a Biostar MB, probably M6TBA) in 1999. It worked well with an internal modem (Digitan Systems DS560-552) so I could talk over landline using my computer headset. Later replaced by Live! Platinum but the card is still in good condition. It uses ES1371 chip.

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The manual called it "AudioPCI 64V" but as an early version it had joystick gameport, which got removed in the later revision with EV1938 chip (I really dislike Creative "recycling" model names).

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Reply 33 of 36, by Ozzuneoj

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dormcat wrote on 2024-08-18, 06:11:

The manual called it "AudioPCI 64V" but as an early version it had joystick gameport, which got removed in the later revision with EV1938 chip (I really dislike Creative "recycling" model names).

Interesting. Do you have any pictures of one of these cards without the gameport? I can't find any online right now and I have never seen an AudioPCI variant without a game port myself, either in person or for sale\in pictures, etc. Maybe they were available exclusively in eastern markets?

I've said it before, but it never ceases to amaze me just how many variants of some mainstream sound cards were produced back in the day. The Sound Blaster 16, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, Jazz 16, Ensoniq\Creative AudioPCI and some others have so many variations (within the same brand\manufacturer) that they are still turning up in pictures for the first time 25-30 years later.

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Reply 34 of 36, by dormcat

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-19, 05:30:

Interesting. Do you have any pictures of one of these cards without the gameport? I can't find any online right now and I have never seen an AudioPCI variant without a game port myself, either in person or for sale\in pictures, etc. Maybe they were available exclusively in eastern markets?

I saw similar descriptions all over the place (including VOGONS Vintage Driver Library: "later cost-reduced model without gameport"), yet I have not seen any physical or photo of any Creative card with EV1938 but without game port. 😵 Cards with EV1938 are not that common in the first place; CT4730 is probably the most common -- if not the only -- card with EV1938, but it has game port.

There's an Indonesian site selling a third party sound card with EV1938 and without game port but I'm not certain of its validity.

I'll take those descriptions with a grain of salt next time. 🙄

Reply 35 of 36, by Ozzuneoj

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dormcat wrote on 2024-08-19, 10:06:
I saw similar descriptions all over the place (including VOGONS Vintage Driver Library: "later cost-reduced model without gamepo […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-19, 05:30:

Interesting. Do you have any pictures of one of these cards without the gameport? I can't find any online right now and I have never seen an AudioPCI variant without a game port myself, either in person or for sale\in pictures, etc. Maybe they were available exclusively in eastern markets?

I saw similar descriptions all over the place (including VOGONS Vintage Driver Library: "later cost-reduced model without gameport"), yet I have not seen any physical or photo of any Creative card with EV1938 but without game port. 😵 Cards with EV1938 are not that common in the first place; CT4730 is probably the most common -- if not the only -- card with EV1938, but it has game port.

There's an Indonesian site selling a third party sound card with EV1938 and without game port but I'm not certain of its validity.

I'll take those descriptions with a grain of salt next time. 🙄

Thank you for verifying that these are rare, I was thinking that I had never seen an EV1938 either, even though I have seen hundreds of AudioPCI cards over the years.

If I ever found one of those super cheap looking cards like the one you linked to, I would add it to my collection for sure! It certainly wouldn't take up much space... 🤣

Also, I will attach the picture here for posterity, since it seems like the only picture of such a card on the internet. If there are more "official" Creative variants of the EV1938 out there, I'd love to see one.

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Reply 36 of 36, by Ozzuneoj

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Whelp, I stumbled upon a CT5306 AudioPCI today and it made me realize that I have in fact seen these before... it just never registered in my mind that they were lacking a gameport.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox- … ih=942&dpr=1.33

If you check on ebay, there are actually a few CT5306 for sale right now, and probably more that just aren't labeled.

It seems this model has the Creative ES1373 chip though, not the EV1938 discussed earlier.

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