Gona wrote on 2021-05-18, 21:14:

Cloudschatze wrote on 2021-05-18, 20:40:

Something is wrong with DSMI's SB16 detection routine in Aladdin. I can't speculate as to what. Here's a workaround config file though, concerning a SB16 configured with IRQ5 and high-DMA channel 5. (Byte 0x25 is the IRQ, and byte 0x26 is the DMA channel, if your SB16 is configured otherwise.)

Enjoy 16-bit @ 44.1kHz stereo output with your SB16, or something.

Wow! Great job!Aladdin_SB16_(patched_by_Cloudschatze)_-_on_-_SB16_CT2230_rev02.ogg

Is it also a detection problem when selecting SB Pro in Aladdin the SB16 works as mono?

That sounds great! Even a bit better than WSS I'd say... more filtered but without being muddy.

Gona wrote on 2021-05-18, 21:14:

Is it also a detection problem when selecting SB Pro in Aladdin the SB16 works as mono?

Detection aside, the stereo PCM playback method used by the Sound Blaster Pro isn't supported by, or compatible with, the SB16.

mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-05-18, 21:27:

Gona wrote on 2021-05-18, 21:14:

Wow! Great job!Aladdin_SB16_(patched_by_Cloudschatze)_-_on_-_SB16_CT2230_rev02.ogg

That sounds great! Even a bit better than WSS I'd say... more filtered but without being muddy.

Here are a couple of FLAC recordings from my CT3980 for comparison, using an optimized mixer configuration:

http://www.symphoniae.com/misc/vogons/aladdin … tle_ct3980.flac (8.48MB)
http://www.symphoniae.com/misc/vogons/aladdin … ket_ct3980.flac (25.6MB)

Cloudschatze wrote on 2021-05-18, 22:12:

Detection aside, the stereo PCM playback method used by the Sound Blaster Pro isn't supported by, or compatible with, the SB16.

Thank you.

Cloudschatze wrote on 2021-05-18, 22:12:

Here are a couple of FLAC recordings from my CT3980 for comparison, using an optimized mixer configuration:

http://www.symphoniae.com/misc/vogons/aladdin … tle_ct3980.flac (8.48MB)
http://www.symphoniae.com/misc/vogons/aladdin … ket_ct3980.flac (25.6MB)

Best! For me the CT3980 is the best AWE32 because this is the last one with true Yamaha OPL chip: CT1747 (made by Yamaha in Japan). Later Creative cards has no true OPL chip just a clone one which sounds different in OPL3 FM sound (but with Aladdin this does not matter because Aladdin uses PCM). And also CT3980 using the newer CT1703-A DAC which has less self noise than earlier Creative DAC chips (my early revision CT2230 using the more noisy CT1703-T as early AWE32s too, but later CT2230s are using also the better CT1703-A DAC).

Cloudschatze wrote on 2021-05-18, 20:40:

Something is wrong with DSMI's SB16 detection routine in Aladdin. I can't speculate as to what. Here's a workaround config file though, concerning a SB16 configured with IRQ5 and high-DMA channel 5.

Excellent work Cloudschatze!

I just tested your modified sound.cfg on my AWE64 and can confirm that it now plays beautiful stereo music. Thanks for looking into this!

So, here's another, uh... workaround. For whatever reason, the SB16 output rate doesn't reflect what is defined in the SOUND.CFG file (44100), and is instead fixed at 42kHz. For legit 44.1kHz output, modify the two bytes at 0x1A88F in ALADDIN.EXE from 08 52 to 22 56.

Vogons is a wonderful place, we fix and update things that have been broken or need an update for over 25 years.

mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-05-16, 20:53:

On my Orpheus sound card WSS music never plays after the title screen. Sound blaster pro music is clean and stereo. In general, I have noticed that WSS sounds when mixed in 8 bit sounds similar to sound blaster pro 2, at least on my card, but slightly less filtered/cleaner.

I just saw this and gave the game a go on my 386 system... I get full music in title screen, load screen and level 1 with WSS selected and the Orpheus
System had ~610kb free conventional (not hard to achieve since the game requires EMS) and the only thing that needed attention was to enter the WSS port on SETSND at $530 - and not $534 like the ULTRA16 variable.
Also extended music was selected (gives the warning about needed more ram)

Other than that it all seemed fine , you can really tell the music plays at a higher rate than sbpro option.

Cloudschatze wrote on 2021-05-20, 02:21:

For whatever reason, the SB16 output rate doesn't reflect what is defined in the SOUND.CFG file (44100), and is instead fixed at 42kHz. For legit 44.1kHz output, modify the two bytes at 0x1A88F in ALADDIN.EXE from 08 52 to 22 56.

Interesting find!

Does this bug also occur when WSS or PAS16 are selected?

keropi wrote on 2021-05-20, 07:09:

I just saw this and gave the game a go on my 386 system... I get full music in title screen, load screen and level 1 with WSS se […]
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mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-05-16, 20:53:

On my Orpheus sound card WSS music never plays after the title screen. Sound blaster pro music is clean and stereo. In general, I have noticed that WSS sounds when mixed in 8 bit sounds similar to sound blaster pro 2, at least on my card, but slightly less filtered/cleaner.

I just saw this and gave the game a go on my 386 system... I get full music in title screen, load screen and level 1 with WSS selected and the Orpheus
System had ~610kb free conventional (not hard to achieve since the game requires EMS) and the only thing that needed attention was to enter the WSS port on SETSND at $530 - and not $534 like the ULTRA16 variable.
Also extended music was selected (gives the warning about needed more ram)

Other than that it all seemed fine , you can really tell the music plays at a higher rate than sbpro option.

Thanks keropi! I'll have to give it another shot.

Hi all, stumbled upon this thread as my issue is that I don't have any sound at all.

Specs:
Asus P3B-F slot 1 Intel 440bx
500Mhz Katmai PIII
512MB RAM
OS WIN98SE and also MS-DOS 6.22 with Phil's starter pack.
Voodoo 3 2000 PCI
Sound card = Creative AWE64 CT4520 ISA
I also have the Yamaha YMF-V724 PCI but removed it to rule out any issues.

I have tried both Aladdin demo and original floppy disk version and I have no sound. Correct drivers are installed under MS-DOS too after following Phil's tutorial.

What else should I check?
Awe64 in DOS and Win98SE reports the following: A220, IRQ5, DMA1.

Other games such as lion King does have sound.

Thanks!

Just to double-check: did you run SETSND from the game's directory to configure sound?

dr_st wrote on 2022-05-15, 04:10:

Just to double-check: did you run SETSND from the game's directory to configure sound?

Yes, I am choosing option number 4, 220h, IRQ5 DMA1, also tried a couple of other options.

Attached first photo is the options list available in the demo version of the game [aladdin].

Now googling found a different set of options as shown in the second photo [DISNEYS ALLADIN SOUND SETTINGS]...

For SB16 you may need to provide the high DMA channel number. Try also SB/SBPro options.

Gona wrote on 2021-05-18, 21:14:

Cloudschatze wrote on 2021-05-18, 20:40:

Something is wrong with DSMI's SB16 detection routine in Aladdin. I can't speculate as to what. Here's a workaround config file though, concerning a SB16 configured with IRQ5 and high-DMA channel 5. (Byte 0x25 is the IRQ, and byte 0x26 is the DMA channel, if your SB16 is configured otherwise.)

Enjoy 16-bit @ 44.1kHz stereo output with your SB16, or something.

Wow! Great job!Aladdin_SB16_(patched_by_Cloudschatze)_-_on_-_SB16_CT2230_rev02.ogg

Is it also a detection problem when selecting SB Pro in Aladdin the SB16 works as mono?

Hi, just find this topic. Amazing work here...
Can you please provide .wav files of all songs? My goal is to make a M1U Aladdin Genesis using these soundtracks

Sorry to bring back an old thread but this is relevant to an issue I'm facing. I have a Win98 build with YMF724 sound card (model A301-G50), along with a 775i65G motherboard. I installed the sound drivers (which includes a legacy driver) - the resource allocation is proper (port 220, DMA 1, IRQ 5).

I tried to run DOS Aladdin in Win98's native DOS box. First I got an "EMS Allocation Error". So I added these two lines to CONFIG.SYS:

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE

After this Aladdin starts normally, but while the display is all good, the sound is a garbled mess. See here: https://imgur.com/a/vCZeB46. I did run SETSND before running ALADDIN, and the default suggested settings by setsnd were correct - SoundBlaster Pro, 220h, DMA 1, IRQ 5.
On the other hand, DOS version of Lion King works just fine - video, sound and all. So I don't understand what's wrong with the sound in Aladdin.

Has anyone faced this issue? Any way to solve this?

Is IRQ 5 used by only the YMF724? I have not tried Aladdin with PCI sound card nor under Windows. You should try MS-DOS mode. Although I'm not familiar with PCI Yamaha chips. ISA based YMF for Blaster Pro not needs driver in DOS at all, but likely this is full different with PCI YMF.

Gona wrote on 2024-03-31, 07:35:

Is IRQ 5 used by only the YMF724? I have not tried Aladdin with PCI sound card nor under Windows. You should try MS-DOS mode. Although I'm not familiar with PCI Yamaha chips. ISA based YMF for Blaster Pro not needs driver in DOS at all, but likely this is full different with PCI YMF.

I don't see any resource conflict in the Device Manager -> Yamaha Legacy device -> Resources tab. So I'm pretty sure IRQ 5 is exclusive to the YMF724. I tried starting windows from command prompt option, and then tried running ALADDIN, but then I get some XMS Allocation Error. I've seen some posts that a program called eatxms can be used, but I have no idea what parameters to pass to eatxms to run it properly..

xtreger wrote on 2024-03-31, 09:00:

I tried starting windows from command prompt option, and then tried running ALADDIN, but then I get some XMS Allocation Error. I've seen some posts that a program called eatxms can be used, but I have no idea what parameters to pass to eatxms to run it properly..

Aladdin doesn't work correctly on systems with more than 32MB RAM.

You can use XMSDSK to create a ramdrive and simultaneously lower the RAM amount that is available to DOS games. The parameters depend on how much RAM your system has installed.

Xmsdsk is indeed the way to go
Better use the /t switch too - just in case
Just allocate enough ram so you end up with under 16mb free

keropi wrote on 2024-03-31, 11:49:

Xmsdsk is indeed the way to go
Better use the /t switch too - just in case
Just allocate enough ram so you end up with under 16mb free

I'm really sorry for the inconvenience, but could you help me out on how to use it? I'm going through the readme and it's a bit too technical for me. More like I'm kinda afraid to screw up my system by using xmsdsk the wrong way. I have 2 GB RAM - so in this scenario should I just
1. boot and press F8 -> start in MS-DOS mode
2. and run the command: XMSDSK 32000 /t

Is this it? Or anything I'm missing?