BitWrangler wrote on 2021-05-29, 23:33:

Yeah, it's a Graphics Ultra... a 8514 chip and an ATi chip all one card, splitting the RAM between them, switching chips according to which mode requested. Found one in my stash the other day.

Interesting! I can always use more ISA video cards, I only have one other free ISA VGA card at the moment.

It came in a box for a completely different card made by a company called Swan Technologies that, based on an educated guess from an old low-res photo, used a Tseng Labs chipset.

PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-05-29, 19:50:

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I would have LAN cards but they don't have the RJ connector, they only have the one for RG coaxial cable, I don't think there is a way to adapt it (maybe through HUB?)

Sure there is, you can use a hub, or just a transceiver from BNC to UTP, or (if the card has a DB15 AUI connection) AUI to UTP. The latter are much easier to find.

Got a CH Mach III joystick.
Needs a good clean and some testing.
This takes me back straightly straight to 1990. 😀

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 00:01:

Interesting! I can always use more ISA video cards, I only have one other free ISA VGA card at the moment.

It's seen as slow for DOS, probably hot stuff in 1990, so 386DX is probably the right match. The 8514 has gui accelerator functions so theoretically better in OS/2 or windows than a non accelerated ISA card, some people call it "The first GPU"

BitWrangler wrote on 2021-05-30, 00:25:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 00:01:

Interesting! I can always use more ISA video cards, I only have one other free ISA VGA card at the moment.

It's seen as slow for DOS, probably hot stuff in 1990, so 386DX is probably the right match. The 8514 has gui accelerator functions so theoretically better in OS/2 or windows than a non accelerated ISA card, some people call it "The first GPU"

Yeah, it might be better than the card in my 386DX right now so it might get a home quickly.

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-29, 23:29:

I got this mystery ISA video card as part of a $30 lot of much newer computers in various states of disrepair, any idea what it is? All I can discern is that it has an ATI chipset and the ROM is labeled "GRAPHICS ULTRA/A".

Yeah, it's an ATI Graphics Ultra, with a Mach 8 chipset. A VGA card introduced in 1991.

debs3759 wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:14:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-29, 23:29:

I got this mystery ISA video card as part of a $30 lot of much newer computers in various states of disrepair, any idea what it is? All I can discern is that it has an ATI chipset and the ROM is labeled "GRAPHICS ULTRA/A".

Yeah, it's an ATI Graphics Ultra, with a Mach 8 chipset. A VGA card introduced in 1991.

How weird that the box it came in (the box for a completely different video card) is also dated 1991. Kinda blows up my "the card in the box was an upgrade" theory.

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:18:

debs3759 wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:14:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-29, 23:29:

I got this mystery ISA video card as part of a $30 lot of much newer computers in various states of disrepair, any idea what it is? All I can discern is that it has an ATI chipset and the ROM is labeled "GRAPHICS ULTRA/A".

Yeah, it's an ATI Graphics Ultra, with a Mach 8 chipset. A VGA card introduced in 1991.

How weird that the box it came in (the box for a completely different video card) is also dated 1991. Kinda blows up my "the card in the box was an upgrade" theory.

Maybe the ATI card came pre-installed and the upgraded to the card the box was from. Or maybe the ATI card just found a home in that box later on.

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:18:

How weird that the box it came in (the box for a completely different video card) is also dated 1991. Kinda blows up my "the card in the box was an upgrade" theory.

This is the correct box with the accessories of the ATI Graphics Ultra:

blurks wrote on 2021-05-30, 08:13:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:18:

How weird that the box it came in (the box for a completely different video card) is also dated 1991. Kinda blows up my "the card in the box was an upgrade" theory.

This is the correct box with the accessories of the ATI Graphics Ultra:

Whoo. That box looks quite modern, like something from the early 2000's...

This arrived the other week. Don't really own any high-end S478 stuff but this was cheap and boxed so decided to grab it.

Asus P4C800-Gold with a SL7E6 3.4ghz chip

Bancho wrote on 2021-05-30, 11:25:

This arrived the other week. Don't really own any high-end S478 stuff but this was cheap and boxed so decided to grab it. […]
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This arrived the other week. Don't really own any high-end S478 stuff but this was cheap and boxed so decided to grab it.

Asus P4C800-Gold with a SL7E6 3.4ghz chip

Nice board!
Got a brand new "P4C800-E Deluxe" in box.
Wonder what the difference vs the "Gold" is?
If they included more bling in the box they did a good job fitting it, mine is bulging already =)

Edit: There's a suggestion that the "Gold" includes the InterVideo stuff, like "WinDVD".
And of.c. a much prettier box =)
Edit2: The -E means its a later board with Intel "CSA" Gigabit NIC.

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:18:

How weird that the box it came in (the box for a completely different video card) is also dated 1991. Kinda blows up my "the card in the box was an upgrade" theory.

I've seen that a lot, got burned a few times. The old part gets put away in the box the new part came in, whether it was dead or working. Bought a sealed (by thrift store) soundblaster box, had a game card in, bought a wireless card in box, had the old 10Mbit NIC in, bought a powercolor box (looked like it should have some variety of radeon) had a 6326 in.

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-29, 23:29:

I got this mystery ISA video card as part of a $30 lot of much newer computers in various states of disrepair, any idea what it is? All I can discern is that it has an ATI chipset and the ROM is labeled "GRAPHICS ULTRA/A".

Have you tried entering "Ati graphics ultra" in google? ;]
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/graphics-ultra.c2031
http://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item/ … raphics-vantage

AngryByDefault wrote on 2021-05-29, 23:49:

Yes! there are hubs with 8 RJ45 lan ports and "uplink" to a coaxial network. I have used them in the past and was a great soluti […]
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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-05-29, 19:50:

[...] I would have LAN cards but they don't have the RJ connector, they only have the one for RG coaxial cable, I don't think there is a way to adapt it (maybe through HUB?)

Yes! there are hubs with 8 RJ45 lan ports and "uplink" to a coaxial network. I have used them in the past and was a great solution (on a TCP/IP network).

coaxial-hub.jpeg

Mind you, I have a vague idea that there were some other network devices that were very smiliar but were meant for a different porpouse.

HTH

Ok thanks for the info, I assumed there was something like this.

dionb wrote on 2021-05-30, 00:12:

PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-05-29, 19:50:

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I would have LAN cards but they don't have the RJ connector, they only have the one for RG coaxial cable, I don't think there is a way to adapt it (maybe through HUB?)

Sure there is, you can use a hub, or just a transceiver from BNC to UTP, or (if the card has a DB15 AUI connection) AUI to UTP. The latter are much easier to find.

Ok thanks for the info, could you show me something like that, so I can get a better idea.

PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-05-30, 19:10:

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Ok thanks for the info, could you show me something like that, so I can get a better idea.

UTP to BNC transceiver (relatively rare):

UTP to AUI transceiver (relatively common):

dionb wrote on 2021-05-30, 20:08:

UTP to BNC transceiver (relatively rare): trendnet_BNC_UTP.jpg […]
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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-05-30, 19:10:

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Ok thanks for the info, could you show me something like that, so I can get a better idea.

UTP to BNC transceiver (relatively rare):
trendnet_BNC_UTP.jpg

UTP to AUI transceiver (relatively common):
Allied_UTP_AUI.jpg

OK thank you very much.
I will try to find one, it could be very useful having a collection of old PCs, sometimes transferring a lot of files is not easy, the fastest and most comfortable way I use is the IDE-CF adapter and a USB CF reader (for most PCs. modern)

pan069 wrote on 2021-05-24, 20:33:

PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-05-24, 20:17:

... the vendor says the card was working but hasn't started it for a while.

"for a while"? Probably more like a decade. If this board works with all the corrosion around the battery I'll eat my hat.

Get that battery of there asap. Then soak the whole area in white vinegar for a few minutes, then rinse thoroughly with IPA. Then check what the damage it.

Hi, today I worked on the 386DX board, I did the oxide cleaning, after removing the battery and keyboard connector, apart from a couple of broken tracks to restore, the rest is in good condition.
I just have to decide whether to tin the copper tracks, and whether to replace or replace the keyboard connector.
When the job is done it should work, if so sorry about the hat. 😀
Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

BitWrangler wrote on 2021-05-30, 13:02:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-05-30, 03:18:

How weird that the box it came in (the box for a completely different video card) is also dated 1991. Kinda blows up my "the card in the box was an upgrade" theory.

I've seen that a lot, got burned a few times. The old part gets put away in the box the new part came in, whether it was dead or working. Bought a sealed (by thrift store) soundblaster box, had a game card in, bought a wireless card in box, had the old 10Mbit NIC in, bought a powercolor box (looked like it should have some variety of radeon) had a 6326 in.

I actually came out slightly better on that before, bought a PCI ESS-based sound card box and inside was an ISA SB16 Vibra card.