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Reply 19740 of 21851, by liqmat

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BetaC wrote on 2021-08-17, 19:08:

I have already cleaned them, the stems, and the domes with a long soak in dish-soapy water. The entire case also got hosed, as there was 30 years of dirt in there.

Excellent. It's my very least favorite thing to do with vintage hardware. Disassemble and clean keyboards. Feels so good afterwards though. My OCD monster grins with contentment.

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Reply 19741 of 21851, by Joakim

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liqmat wrote on 2021-08-18, 12:57:
BetaC wrote on 2021-08-17, 19:08:

I have already cleaned them, the stems, and the domes with a long soak in dish-soapy water. The entire case also got hosed, as there was 30 years of dirt in there.

Excellent. It's my very least favorite thing to do with vintage hardware. Disassemble and clean keyboards. Feels so good afterwards though. My OCD monster grins with contentment.

Mm yeah I don't like it either, partly because those old things made of 0.2 mm thick plastic breaks easily.. not that easy to repair..

Reply 19742 of 21851, by PARKE

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During covid I tried to find as much info on S370 to Slot1 slotket adapters as possible and combine the info in a somewhat comprehensible format. The resulting PDF file can be downloaded here by people who are interested:
edit - link removed

Last edited by PARKE on 2021-08-19, 11:18. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 19743 of 21851, by debs3759

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PARKE wrote on 2021-08-18, 16:02:

During covid I tried to find as much info on S370 to Slot1 slotket adapters as possible and combine the info in a somewhat comprehensible format. The resulting PDF file can be downloaded here by people who are interested:
https://www39.zippyshare.com/v/LuWg0Eef/file.html

Got a 403 error, access forbidden

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Reply 19744 of 21851, by BitWrangler

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Working here, maybe UK national firewall doesn't like it because it can share any type of file.

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Reply 19746 of 21851, by luckybob

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PARKE wrote on 2021-08-18, 16:02:

During covid I tried to find as much info on S370 to Slot1 slotket adapters as possible and combine the info in a somewhat comprehensible format. The resulting PDF file can be downloaded here by people who are interested:
https://www39.zippyshare.com/v/LuWg0Eef/file.html

Jesus christ, that website is fucking heinous. Nobody click that link!

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Reply 19747 of 21851, by BitWrangler

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I didn't notice, Ad Block Plus must be earning it's keep 🤣

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Reply 19748 of 21851, by luckybob

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Yea, I went there on my mobile, big mistake. That gave my phone at least 3 different types of herpes .

*edit*

Rather than bitch and moan about that website link being analogous to a 2$ hooker, I downloaded it and re-hosted it from my google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kpUiExJddCg9 … iew?usp=sharing

It is a very nice pdf with a massive amount of data. I would love to see it shared and if people have jumper settings to add or advise about these adapters, please do so.

*EDIT #2*

PARKE has been super busy and has been keeping the PDF updated with new info/adapters/etc the latest version is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kGgO3TJyFDTH … iew?usp=sharing

Last edited by luckybob on 2021-09-26, 18:46. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 19749 of 21851, by Merovign

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PARKE wrote on 2021-08-18, 16:02:

During covid I tried to find as much info on S370 to Slot1 slotket adapters as possible and combine the info in a somewhat comprehensible format. The resulting PDF file can be downloaded here by people who are interested:
https://www39.zippyshare.com/v/LuWg0Eef/file.html

Apart from the Zippyshare thing, thanks for doing all that work! I have been thinking about making space for a Slotlket system, though I have to clear some serious room first.

*Too* *many* *things*!

Reply 19750 of 21851, by Merovign

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BetaC wrote on 2021-08-17, 08:21:

After building a sketchy cable out of a Generic 9V 3A wall wart and a figure-of-8 cable from amazon, I finally got my VIC-20 running. I'm still missing keys, and have absolutely nothing to run on it, but hey, I'm only like $25 in to this system, $5 of which was the system alone.

Sketchy power adapter adaptations are my jam.

6-pin Zeos laptop PSU with bad cable? Hey, I have some heavy-duty Cat5 I can use. 4-pin obscure connector for POS 12v power supply? Well, the it's actually two pins inside both ends, so I soldered some twisted speaker wire.

And my Zenith 286 not-even-laptop? Wall wart from a box of old consumer adapters for any random device.

I keep saying I'm going to built custom compact power supplies for these old machines with huge external PSUs. I guess it's a good thing I don't get paid for this, because, well, I wouldn't be getting paid.

*Too* *many* *things*!

Reply 19751 of 21851, by BitWrangler

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What's that saying, something about quick lashups lasting forever... I do have to do something better about my AST PowerExec though, two alligator clips to the battery terminals off a jumpered ATX supply is a bit iffy.

Story along that line about a microwave, sometime in late oughts, I kerbfind a microwave, bit battered looking but the relatives are always moving around and needing appliances etc.. so I grab it.. check it out at home, it's working, knock the worst dents out and clean it up, and put it in reserve. About a month later, our microwave dies. So 1st tour of duty, about 3 years, didn't see any good deals or models that appealed, finally bought a "nice" one, it lasted about 10 days past the warranty running out, just went totally dead... 2nd tour of duty for the old beater... another 3 or 4 years... during which time, it developed rust around the frame of the door, cleaned up and patched over with the aluminum metal duct tape... then the door release broke... just a plastic peg in the press button hinge sheared off, I was able to patch in a metal peg with epoxy... goes another few months... oooh, good sale on nice looking microwaves... new microwave... does about a year and 2 months and the turntable drive motor burns out... couple of months lead time for the part.. 3rd tour of duty for the old beater... another 2 years, never got round to ordering the turntable motor... this time touch wood, cross fingers, it's replacement seems to have lasted well outside the warranty... but old faithful is kept ready in the basement still, patched, scarred and fugly though it is.

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Reply 19752 of 21851, by Merovign

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-08-18, 20:37:

What's that saying, something about quick lashups lasting forever... I do have to do something better about my AST PowerExec though, two alligator clips to the battery terminals off a jumpered ATX supply is a bit iffy.

Well, in my case, the Zenith may just be The Way It Is, because it's unoriginal but not dodgy.

The POS systems, well, I have 3 PSUs with cut-off cables and 6 systems, so basically I just need 3 more PSUs that are 12V and the right wattage. I can actually order the connectors, though they're really expensive, about $5 individually but I can get 10 for $13, so there will be extras. I think it's kind of crazypants that they used 4pin+ground shield for something that is literally two pins inside both the system and the PSU, but there you go.

The Zeos, well, uses the correct connector just the wrong wire. It's actually pretty low current. It is ugly, though.

I think the *goal* is that it's neat and at least reasonably correct when you're done. Maybe we don't always get there. 😀

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Reply 19753 of 21851, by debs3759

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luckybob wrote on 2021-08-18, 17:56:
Yea, I went there on my mobile, big mistake. That gave my phone at least 3 different types of herpes . […]
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Yea, I went there on my mobile, big mistake. That gave my phone at least 3 different types of herpes .

*edit*

Rather than bitch and moan about that website link being analogous to a 2$ hooker, I downloaded it and re-hosted it from my google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kpUiExJddCg9 … iew?usp=sharing

It is a very nice pdf with a massive amount of data. I would love to see it shared and if people have jumper settings to add or advise about these adapters, please do so.

Thanks Bob. No idea why I can't access the original copy, but reading other posts, it's probably my security setting 😀

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Reply 19754 of 21851, by creepingnet

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Fixed the Versa V/50, turned out to be a blown fuse in the power section.....unfortunately I had to bodge wire it together as I don't have any SMD Fuses on hand that are easily replaceable. But it works now, and that's all that matters. So now all 4 run again, though I need a new screen for the 40EC.....or maybe I'll frankenstein one.

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Reply 19755 of 21851, by BitWrangler

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I bet you wish you had this useful reference to hand for fuse selection ...

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Reply 19756 of 21851, by creepingnet

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-08-19, 01:55:
I bet you wish you had this useful reference to hand for fuse selection ... […]
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I bet you wish you had this useful reference to hand for fuse selection ...

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If I went by that guide I must've engineered my own proper fuse out of the very thin copper wire I used, 🤣 (6.3A fuse is what I replaced). 🤣

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Reply 19757 of 21851, by bjwil1991

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Tested the Pentium laptop that has a game pad integrated and the CD drive is totally shot, the floppy drive doesn't read squat, and the DSTN display needs to be upgraded to a TFT.

On the plus side, the ES1688F works and the BIOS keeps its settings. The floppy seeks upon the POST, but refuses to boot any diskette I insert.

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Reply 19758 of 21851, by BetaC

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Merovign wrote on 2021-08-18, 19:58:
Sketchy power adapter adaptations are my jam. […]
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BetaC wrote on 2021-08-17, 08:21:

After building a sketchy cable out of a Generic 9V 3A wall wart and a figure-of-8 cable from amazon, I finally got my VIC-20 running. I'm still missing keys, and have absolutely nothing to run on it, but hey, I'm only like $25 in to this system, $5 of which was the system alone.

Sketchy power adapter adaptations are my jam.

6-pin Zeos laptop PSU with bad cable? Hey, I have some heavy-duty Cat5 I can use. 4-pin obscure connector for POS 12v power supply? Well, the it's actually two pins inside both ends, so I soldered some twisted speaker wire.

And my Zenith 286 not-even-laptop? Wall wart from a box of old consumer adapters for any random device.

I keep saying I'm going to built custom compact power supplies for these old machines with huge external PSUs. I guess it's a good thing I don't get paid for this, because, well, I wouldn't be getting paid.

It could be a lot sketchier, all things considered. I wrapped the parts where the different cables made contact individually, and the heat-shrank the outside for protection.

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Reply 19759 of 21851, by PARKE

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luckybob wrote on 2021-08-18, 17:56:
Yea, I went there on my mobile, big mistake. That gave my phone at least 3 different types of herpes . […]
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Yea, I went there on my mobile, big mistake. That gave my phone at least 3 different types of herpes .

*edit*

Rather than bitch and moan about that website link being analogous to a 2$ hooker, I downloaded it and re-hosted it from my google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kpUiExJddCg9 … iew?usp=sharing

It is a very nice pdf with a massive amount of data. I would love to see it shared and if people have jumper settings to add or advise about these adapters, please do so.

Strange. I don't see anything wrong with it when I upload. But via the download link (which I did not use before today) I see the crap too. Will remove the link - thanks for the warning.