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First post, by Mafiatounes

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I bought a old system a while back current state is really messed up in a spray painted case with following components which i want to build out in a Chieftec Dragon DX01 case i have.

CASE = No name different colors by spray paint (will be moved over to a Chieftec Dragon i have in good condition but is missing a PSU adapter bracket i bought a similar defective Chieftec case for this bracket will pick up tomorrow)
Motherboard = MSI K7T PRO2 MS-6330 (replaced chipset thermal paste, need to update bios still)
RAM = 2x256mb pc-133 (will keep as is for this)
CPU = Athlon xp 1700+ Palomino (will be upgraded to Thoroughbred B 2000+)
Cooler = stock aluminum (would want copper but still searching)
GPU = Ati Radeon 9600se (i have a Gf3 ti200, Gf4 ti4200 or FX5600 not sure which to use GF4 seems best)
PSU = i added a FSP 400 with a 20a rail on 5v
HDD = i added a 120gb IDE Seagate 7200.8 (i have a Promise PCI controller not sure if i will go raid route yet)
ODD = i added 1X IDE CD Writer 1x IDE DVD Writer and a 3.5" floppy
Soundcard = on the way is a Sounblaster Live (ess 1371 for 5€ but wanted the ess1370 tbh)
Add-on = need a usb 2.0 pci card still

Will try to use all this on a 1600x1200 75hz monitor togheter with PS/2 mouse and keyboard

Want to use this as a proper (not showoff) build mainly for DOS and W98 era games.

What do you guys think is there any thing i should change or add or tips for DOS/98se?

Too many builds running DOS/98se/Xp/Vista/7/10/11/Linux Mint don't like VM want real hw

Reply 1 of 6, by dionb

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For DOS you're best off with ISA sound cards, and that motherboard doesn't have an ISA slot. If the caps are good it's a fine Win98 platform though. If they haven't already been replaced assume you will need to though...

Also, you're referring to "ess" 1370 / 1371. That's not correct, those are Ensoniq (later Creative) cards, not ESS, whose Solo-1 is one of the more DOS-compatible PCI sound chips out there. If you really want to do DOS on this thing, I'd recommend a card with ESS Solo chip.

Reply 2 of 6, by Robbbert

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If it's pure DOS (such as 6.22 or older), there's no control of the cpu speed, so it runs full blast and could overheat. My Celeron machines get that problem with DOS and shut down after about half an hour, with the power light blinking red.

But if you use Windows (98SE is fine), there will be no issue.

Reply 3 of 6, by MagefromAntares

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Robbbert wrote on 2026-05-31, 13:04:

If it's pure DOS (such as 6.22 or older), there's no control of the cpu speed, so it runs full blast and could overheat. My Celeron machines get that problem with DOS and shut down after about half an hour, with the power light blinking red.

But if you use Windows (98SE is fine), there will be no issue.

Hi,

MS-DOS 6.0 or later(Not all versions, but depending on your luck it might) came with this utility that can be used in the CONFIG.SYS:https://www.easydos.com/power.html
This can help with overheating issues, however as it is DOS and programs doesn't expect this to be running in the background this will make some software fail, however if your computer regularly shutdown because of overheating it might still be better to lose some compatibility instead of being annoyed by an every half-hour shutdown.

Also note that this utility came out a long time before the AMD processors mentioned, so it might not do the performance management properly on these newer systems as it uses APM instead of the more modern ACPI, might worth a try however.

EDIT: Also note the post below me by Shponglefan, running a Celeron even at 100% shouldn't result in overheating in 30 minutes, almost all Celerons are easy to keep cool even at 100% power, the only exception is some of the Prescott core P4 Celerons, those run hot for a Celeron, but even these are manageable with proper cooling.

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Reply 4 of 6, by Shponglefan

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Robbbert wrote on 2026-05-31, 13:04:

If it's pure DOS (such as 6.22 or older), there's no control of the cpu speed, so it runs full blast and could overheat. My Celeron machines get that problem with DOS and shut down after about half an hour, with the power light blinking red.

If your CPU is consistently overheating, that sounds like inadequate cooling. It shouldn't do that even running pure DOS. And especially not for a Celeron processor which tend to consume less power than their regular Pentium counterparts.

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Reply 5 of 6, by Mafiatounes

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dionb wrote on 2026-05-31, 11:50:

For DOS you're best off with ISA sound cards, and that motherboard doesn't have an ISA slot. If the caps are good it's a fine Win98 platform though. If they haven't already been replaced assume you will need to though...

Also, you're referring to "ess" 1370 / 1371. That's not correct, those are Ensoniq (later Creative) cards, not ESS, whose Solo-1 is one of the more DOS-compatible PCI sound chips out there. If you really want to do DOS on this thing, I'd recommend a card with ESS Solo chip.

Thanks and you are right, made a typo/confusion there should be the SB ES1371 which while not perfect is a better choice for PCI / DOS (the 1370 is better). Had a look earlier while searching initially for ESS Solo but only found quitte expensive ones (this confused my post here), but will search on, not really looking for an ISA board i'm trying to slim my collection to a couple dedicated rigs where this is the first to be completed for that purpose.

Too many builds running DOS/98se/Xp/Vista/7/10/11/Linux Mint don't like VM want real hw

Reply 6 of 6, by Mafiatounes

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Robbbert wrote on 2026-05-31, 13:04:

If it's pure DOS (such as 6.22 or older), there's no control of the cpu speed, so it runs full blast and could overheat. My Celeron machines get that problem with DOS and shut down after about half an hour, with the power light blinking red.

But if you use Windows (98SE is fine), there will be no issue.

Did you use CpuSpd to try and clock lower? Is your cooling adequate? I still need to do all testing myself hope it goes well.

Too many builds running DOS/98se/Xp/Vista/7/10/11/Linux Mint don't like VM want real hw