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Reply 520 of 536, by Mumak

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appiah4 wrote on 2021-05-19, 22:23:
Mumak wrote on 2021-05-11, 07:32:
appiah4 wrote on 2021-05-11, 07:20:

How do I generate one from the MS-DOS version? I think I have version 6.1.3 by the way.

Either manually pressing F2 will save content of current screen into a LOG file, or automatically using the -r switch. Adding -d will also produce DBG file that contains some more details for me.

Here you go, I hope it helps. 😀

Thanks! It's useful for my reference and future improvements.
What DELL monitor is that, P2414H? This model isn't in my database yet.

Reply 521 of 536, by appiah4

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Yesi it's a Dell P2414H 24" IPS, it is my daily work/browsing/multimedia/gaming monitor, pretty good budget monitor with a good panel 😀

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Reply 523 of 536, by the_ultra_code

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Tested out an ATI Rage LT PRO AGP PCI card under 98SE on my Asus TUSL2-C test-bench, and noticed questionable clocks being reported. Frankly, not sure what the actual clocks for this card are supposed to be, but looking on Wikipedia, these don't look quite right. Was wondering if you could take a look at it Mumak. Thanks!

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Reply 524 of 536, by Mumak

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Frankly, I'm not sure here either. Clock detection here is implemented per documentation but I can't rule out cases where some additional/special clocking logic is involved.
Is there some other tool being able to report clocks that we can trust?

Reply 525 of 536, by the_ultra_code

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Mumak wrote on 2021-07-05, 10:35:

Is there some other tool being able to report clocks that we can trust?

Not that I know of, no. Everest did not report clocks, Rivatuner224C provided nothing, and the drivers I used didn't provide any information. Maybe newer drivers would say something, but I'm doubtful.

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Please find attached a report and debug file for my new toy, a Fujitsu Lifebook S6110 laptop running Windows 98SE. All seems to be in order but hopefully it helps with something anyway.

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Reply 527 of 536, by Mumak

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appiah4 wrote on 2021-07-16, 11:29:

Please find attached a report and debug file for my new toy, a Fujitsu Lifebook S6110 laptop running Windows 98SE. All seems to be in order but hopefully it helps with something anyway.

Thanks, looks good 😀

Reply 528 of 536, by zapbuzz

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the_ultra_code wrote on 2021-07-05, 10:28:
Tested out an ATI Rage LT PRO AGP PCI card under 98SE on my Asus TUSL2-C test-bench, and noticed questionable clocks being repor […]
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Tested out an ATI Rage LT PRO AGP PCI card under 98SE on my Asus TUSL2-C test-bench, and noticed questionable clocks being reported. Frankly, not sure what the actual clocks for this card are supposed to be, but looking on Wikipedia, these don't look quite right. Was wondering if you could take a look at it Mumak. Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_gra … Mobility_series
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That little metal can on your GPU card is the clock crystal be wise to test it they vibrate silently to death. Also happens to old motherboards.
They are cheap to get though just that tedious surface mount job is all.

Reply 530 of 536, by the_ultra_code

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zapbuzz wrote on 2021-07-19, 15:38:

That little metal can on your GPU card is the clock crystal be wise to test it they vibrate silently to death. Also happens to old motherboards.
They are cheap to get though just that tedious surface mount job is all.

Not sure how you would test it. With a multimeter perhaps? Also, I've already recycled the card - it was causing a short somewhere, don't have the knowledge to diagnose it, and frankly don't care enough for such a strange card. 😒

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the_ultra_code wrote on 2021-07-19, 23:18:
zapbuzz wrote on 2021-07-19, 15:38:

That little metal can on your GPU card is the clock crystal be wise to test it they vibrate silently to death. Also happens to old motherboards.
They are cheap to get though just that tedious surface mount job is all.

Not sure how you would test it. With a multimeter perhaps? Also, I've already recycled the card - it was causing a short somewhere, don't have the knowledge to diagnose it, and frankly don't care enough for such a strange card. 😒

theres a youtube channel with technicians of a computer museun they called CuriousMarc that demonstrates how to test clock crystals https://www.youtube.com/c/CuriousMarc/featured

SiS6326 had an AGP chip on PCI came in 4 to 8mb vram I recommend them as the pci solution of such a contraption if one was to look for them the SiS bios came out with bios upodate TSR programs that bios could be programmed into many system BIOS eliminating the onboard video bios (i took it off the card ran much faster)

Reply 532 of 536, by Cyrix200+

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Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet).

- Some DIMMs are recognized as FPM (should be EDO)
- Temperatures and other sensors have strange values
- Audio is not fully recognized (listed as Unknown or none, but devices are present)
- In SMBIOS DMI the L1 and L2 cache are listed but have no title (this might be just the way it is)
- Serial ports are disabled in BIOS, but still found by HWiNFO32. But Windows 2000 also assumes they are there in Device Manager with the yellow exclamation marks

Thanks for keeping retro-HWiNFO alive!

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Reply 533 of 536, by Mumak

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Cyrix200+ wrote on 2021-10-20, 12:39:
Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet). […]
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Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet).

- Some DIMMs are recognized as FPM (should be EDO)
- Temperatures and other sensors have strange values
- Audio is not fully recognized (listed as Unknown or none, but devices are present)
- In SMBIOS DMI the L1 and L2 cache are listed but have no title (this might be just the way it is)
- Serial ports are disabled in BIOS, but still found by HWiNFO32. But Windows 2000 also assumes they are there in Device Manager with the yellow exclamation marks

Thanks for keeping retro-HWiNFO alive!

Thanks for the feedback. Please also attach the HWiNFO Debug File, I need to check more details.
From a quick look - the BIOS also reports 2 modules as FPM in SMBIOS DMI. The L1/L2 info in DMI is populated by BIOS.

Reply 534 of 536, by Cyrix200+

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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-20, 13:23:
Cyrix200+ wrote on 2021-10-20, 12:39:
Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet). […]
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Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet).

- Some DIMMs are recognized as FPM (should be EDO)
- Temperatures and other sensors have strange values
- Audio is not fully recognized (listed as Unknown or none, but devices are present)
- In SMBIOS DMI the L1 and L2 cache are listed but have no title (this might be just the way it is)
- Serial ports are disabled in BIOS, but still found by HWiNFO32. But Windows 2000 also assumes they are there in Device Manager with the yellow exclamation marks

Thanks for keeping retro-HWiNFO alive!

Thanks for the feedback. Please also attach the HWiNFO Debug File, I need to check more details.
From a quick look - the BIOS also reports 2 modules as FPM in SMBIOS DMI. The L1/L2 info in DMI is populated by BIOS.

I have reset the BIOS settings between my previous post and this post. I've attached the debug file and a new log file.

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Reply 535 of 536, by Mumak

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Cyrix200+ wrote on 2021-10-20, 14:49:
Mumak wrote on 2021-10-20, 13:23:
Cyrix200+ wrote on 2021-10-20, 12:39:
Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet). […]
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Tried HWiNFO32 on my Dual Pentium Pro build (not done yet).

- Some DIMMs are recognized as FPM (should be EDO)
- Temperatures and other sensors have strange values
- Audio is not fully recognized (listed as Unknown or none, but devices are present)
- In SMBIOS DMI the L1 and L2 cache are listed but have no title (this might be just the way it is)
- Serial ports are disabled in BIOS, but still found by HWiNFO32. But Windows 2000 also assumes they are there in Device Manager with the yellow exclamation marks

Thanks for keeping retro-HWiNFO alive!

Thanks for the feedback. Please also attach the HWiNFO Debug File, I need to check more details.
From a quick look - the BIOS also reports 2 modules as FPM in SMBIOS DMI. The L1/L2 info in DMI is populated by BIOS.

I have reset the BIOS settings between my previous post and this post. I've attached the debug file and a new log file.

Looking at the raw data, the memory controller is indeed configured so that the last rows are in FPM mode. Could be a BIOS issue.

Reply 536 of 536, by Cyrix200+

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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-20, 17:17:
Cyrix200+ wrote on 2021-10-20, 14:49:
Mumak wrote on 2021-10-20, 13:23:

Thanks for the feedback. Please also attach the HWiNFO Debug File, I need to check more details.
From a quick look - the BIOS also reports 2 modules as FPM in SMBIOS DMI. The L1/L2 info in DMI is populated by BIOS.

I have reset the BIOS settings between my previous post and this post. I've attached the debug file and a new log file.

Looking at the raw data, the memory controller is indeed configured so that the last rows are in FPM mode. Could be a BIOS issue.

Ha, the memory controller was actually right. The DIMMs are FPM: https://www.servers4less.com/memory/server/mi … shi-mh4v72czj-6

FPM is not (officially) supported by the board (http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboards/3172), so I had assumed it was EDO memory.

1.4.1 Main Memory The motherboard has four DIMM sockets. Minimum memory size is 16 MB and maximum memory size is 512 MB. The m […]
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1.4.1 Main Memory
The motherboard has four DIMM sockets. Minimum memory size is 16 MB and maximum
memory size is 512 MB. The motherboard supports the following memory types, speeds, and

module sizes:
• 168-pin 3.3 V DIMMs with gold-plated contacts
• 50 ns and 60 ns buffered asynchronous EDO memory
• Parity and ECC memory
• 2 MB x 72 (16 MB), 4 MB x 72 (32 MB), 8 MB x 72 (64 MB) and 16 MB x 72 (128 MB)
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