Nunoalex wrote on 2025-04-06, 19:33:

OMG a mirage ? 8-) So probably some knd of industrial card? […]
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nfraser01 wrote on 2025-04-06, 18:41:

Made in 1992 Made by Dassault (the French electronics/aerospace company) Optional ram upgrade installed (blue sockets)? […]
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Nunoalex wrote on 2025-04-06, 16:13:

Can you guys help identify this mysterious ISA card ?

Made in 1992
Made by Dassault (the French electronics/aerospace company)
Optional ram upgrade installed (blue sockets)?

Might be another printer rasteriser, but potentially more interesting than that. Perhaps to connect to a Mirage 2000?

OMG a mirage ? 😎
So probably some knd of industrial card?

thank you now I have some lead to follow..
I installed it on a win98 machine and nothing was detected

It's good to check the other replies to your question.
Also
There is no jumper set for the IO port selection .

Nunoalex wrote on 2025-04-06, 19:33:

OMG a mirage ? 😎
So probably some knd of industrial card?

You know I was joking, right? 😀

devius wrote on 2025-04-06, 18:12:

zuldan wrote on 2025-04-06, 16:15:

Very nice. Apparently you could buy these new a couple of years ago. Are you going to do the noise filter mod?

I remember when they were all the rage 10 years ago. I got one, but it's the model without built-in wavetable. What is this noise filter mod you mention? Can't find that particular mod. Just adding the IDE port and fixing the reversed stereo for the waveblaster port.

Here you go Re: Yamaha YMF71x SB Pro Mixer Bug Issue Fix

You can use SMD capacitors instead. I ordered these https://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/80-C0805C682F4HACTU

weedeewee wrote on 2025-04-06, 19:48:

It's good to check the other replies to your question. Also There is no jumper set for the IO port selection . […]
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Nunoalex wrote on 2025-04-06, 19:33:

OMG a mirage ? 8-) So probably some knd of industrial card? […]
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nfraser01 wrote on 2025-04-06, 18:41:

Made in 1992 Made by Dassault (the French electronics/aerospace company) Optional ram upgrade installed (blue sockets)? […]
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Made in 1992
Made by Dassault (the French electronics/aerospace company)
Optional ram upgrade installed (blue sockets)?

Might be another printer rasteriser, but potentially more interesting than that. Perhaps to connect to a Mirage 2000?

OMG a mirage ? 😎
So probably some knd of industrial card?

thank you now I have some lead to follow..
I installed it on a win98 machine and nothing was detected

It's good to check the other replies to your question.
Also
There is no jumper set for the IO port selection .

I know, thank you
I googled the FCC number but couldnt find anything...

So basicly some kind of industrial communications card...
What is funny is that it has an AMD 80186... isn't that one of the earliest x86 processors?
And it has also a Zilog chip of some kind

So some very busy card with some processing power in it... I wonder what it was used for

Thanx

slivercr wrote on 2025-03-21, 05:16:

Indulged a bit yesterday and bought a funky motherboard to test CPUs with […]
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Indulged a bit yesterday and bought a funky motherboard to test CPUs with

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I wasn't too sure, but intel branding, ISA, and 3 RAM slots suggest it's a 440BX so I pulled the trigger. Looks to be this motherboard.

From the same seller I got a Radeon DDR, the AIW version–I was missing an og Radeon in my collection so this is quite welcome!

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I finally had a chance to test these items. The Radeon unfortunately shows some artifacts when plugged in. Ill try cleaning it and reflashing its BIOS to see if it can be saved.

The motherboard is very curious, it is indeed 440BX based. I used the manual available in The Retro Web and according to that, the PCB can accommodate a 440ZX, a 440BX, an Apollo Pro+, or an Apollo Pro133.

The manual lists an onboard VRM 8.4, the spec that came out to accommodate the Coppermine CPUs. There's an onboard LM2637M as pointed out by Ozzuneoj earlier.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-03-21, 07:51:

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-03-21, 05:47:

slivercr wrote on 2025-03-21, 05:16:

Indulged a bit yesterday and bought a funky motherboard to test CPUs with

That's kind of odd. The website you linked doesn't mention Coppermine support, even though it's a 440BX. Something worth checking out and letting us know if it's supported.

The voltage regulator should support the lower Coppermine voltages, so it's just a matter of whether the BIOS does or not.

The clock generator is a Cypress W144H, capable of up to 150 MHz FSB.
The motherboard has no fan headers though it has the silkscreen for a couple of them, has 7 expansion slots, and a lot of jumpers all over the place.

I tested a few Slot 1 CPUs and it posted with everything except for my Celeron 333 Engineering Sample.

Celeron 300A

PentiumII 450

Coppermine 750 MHz

Coppermine 1000B (7.5x133)

I couldnt find my stash of s370 CPUs to try any, so those tests are pending.
I did try the frequency jumpers, overriding the frequency to 100 MHz to overclock my 300A

I think in the future Ill spend some time with this motherboard and see if there are any enhancements I can make.
The manual lists most of the jumper configs, but Ill poke around for undocumented features.

This weekend, on a silly whim with a friend, we went to a thrift shop in a city 500km away (I don't have a driver's license, so he drove everything! I can't thank him enough).
Result: Big harvest!

The things I bought are mostly in the picture (some things are not in the picture because I left them in his car, and some modern things are in the picture...):
- Old white box. Pentium 166 (maybe MMX?), 32MB EDO SIMM, DFI 586ITXD, S3 ViRGE, ISA sound card with ESS chip
- IO-DATA GA-PII8/PCI (Permedia2 video card)
- Some SDRAM DIMMs. SODIMM 64MB/512MB, DIMM 256MB
- PC Engines ALIX.2D
- NE2000 clone (LD-NE20/52T)
- IDE slim drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)

(Things not in the picture)
- CardBus DVD-ROM drive and USB FDD for VAIO laptop

(Modern things)
- A10-9800E
- IO-DATA 11bg access point

Excluding modern things, it was 6325 yen (just under 45 USD)!

Munx wrote on 2025-04-06, 16:49:

Jccwu wrote on 2025-04-06, 15:54:

Audition 32 plus

Nice! With dedicated Midi too.

I also have such a card with another chip wt

Jccwu wrote on 2025-04-07, 05:58:

Munx wrote on 2025-04-06, 16:49:

Jccwu wrote on 2025-04-06, 15:54:

Audition 32 plus

Nice! With dedicated Midi too.

I also have such a card with another chip wt

Oh man, that one is so cool! The YMF704c is quite uncommon. I have mainly seen it on motherboards that have onboard Yamaha audio. A YMF718 with a 704C onboard would be a really unique and very versatile card. 😀

I can't remember if I have any cards or motherboards on-hand that have that particular chip. I believe it is some variant of the OPL4, based on the information in this thread.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-07, 06:20:

Jccwu wrote on 2025-04-07, 05:58:

Munx wrote on 2025-04-06, 16:49:

Nice! With dedicated Midi too.

I also have such a card with another chip wt

Oh man, that one is so cool! The YMF704c is quite uncommon. I have mainly seen it on motherboards that have onboard Yamaha audio. A YMF718 with a 704C onboard would be a really unique and very versatile card. 😀

I can't remember if I have any cards or motherboards on-hand that have that particular chip. I believe it is some variant of the OPL4, based on the information in this thread.

all this can be done by yourself, Y704 chips are sold on aliexpress. it is enough to solder this chip on the card, adding a few elements, and you will have the same card. that is exactly what i did with both cards.

PcBytes wrote on 2025-04-05, 15:46:

Refreshing the thread with a few soundcards I got today. […]
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Refreshing the thread with a few soundcards I got today.

- Audigy 2 ZS Retail (thanks to a few posts made by @Joseph_Joestar, I managed to figure it really is retail - SN is 0350 which means retail card)
- Ensoniq PCI Audio 5200 (with a Creative IC 🤣)
- CT4750 (SB 128PCI)
- SB AWE64 CT4370
- CMI8330A soundcard (which got recapped as soon as I got it, with polymers)
- an interesting MSI ball point pen
- 2x ARGB LED strips

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As well as another board added to the list by my contact, an Gigabyte GA-60XT-A.

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i used to work for a company back in 2005 that built systems for schools/colleges here in the UK, they used to get a bunch of promo stuff in the sales department where i was, i had an MSI phone holder and and an MSI hooded coat, it had the MSI logo across the back and had the slogan "my style inside" underneath, it was blue with a shiny gold inner lining, it looked cheap and tacky AF, but it was cool, i loaned it to my cousin and never got it back, wish i still had it i cant even find a pic of it on google.

Can you guys help identify this mysterious ISA card ?

The port looks like some external ports on SCSI cards, but there is no internal port and place for it.

Just got an ABIT IP-35E. Not the best s775 out there, but pristine in-a-box condition with all accessories and booklet included.

DudeFace wrote on 2025-04-07, 07:53:

PcBytes wrote on 2025-04-05, 15:46:

Refreshing the thread with a few soundcards I got today. […]
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Refreshing the thread with a few soundcards I got today.

- Audigy 2 ZS Retail (thanks to a few posts made by @Joseph_Joestar, I managed to figure it really is retail - SN is 0350 which means retail card)
- Ensoniq PCI Audio 5200 (with a Creative IC 🤣)
- CT4750 (SB 128PCI)
- SB AWE64 CT4370
- CMI8330A soundcard (which got recapped as soon as I got it, with polymers)
- an interesting MSI ball point pen
- 2x ARGB LED strips

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As well as another board added to the list by my contact, an Gigabyte GA-60XT-A.

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i used to work for a company back in 2005 that built systems for schools/colleges here in the UK, they used to get a bunch of promo stuff in the sales department where i was, i had an MSI phone holder and and an MSI hooded coat, it had the MSI logo across the back and had the slogan "my style inside" underneath, it was blue with a shiny gold inner lining, it looked cheap and tacky AF, but it was cool, i loaned it to my cousin and never got it back, wish i still had it i cant even find a pic of it on google.

I miss the relative abundance of freebie T-shirts and hats that were around "in the before times" I guess the dotcom crash damped a lot of that wild promo extravagance, and it seems to be rarer and rarer since. I forget what specifically I might have had, but only 2 or 3 shirts and they wore out to rags in 5 years, due to being thin stuff.

At the moment, the only promo item I can think of that is in the house, is an MSI dragon stuffie that my wife got because it was a dragon. She did "dental work" on him though because the tooth stitch had messed up in manufacture and looked more like redneck yokel than impressive dragon teeth so she snipped them out. Next time I have occasion to take pics of MSI boards, I'll try to remember to get him to "help".

slivercr wrote on 2025-04-07, 00:24:

I finally had a chance to test these items. The Radeon unfortunately shows some artifacts when plugged in. Ill try cleaning it a […]
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slivercr wrote on 2025-03-21, 05:16:

Indulged a bit yesterday and bought a funky motherboard to test CPUs with […]
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Indulged a bit yesterday and bought a funky motherboard to test CPUs with

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I wasn't too sure, but intel branding, ISA, and 3 RAM slots suggest it's a 440BX so I pulled the trigger. Looks to be this motherboard.

From the same seller I got a Radeon DDR, the AIW version–I was missing an og Radeon in my collection so this is quite welcome!

The attachment s-l1600 (1).webp is no longer available

I finally had a chance to test these items. The Radeon unfortunately shows some artifacts when plugged in. Ill try cleaning it and reflashing its BIOS to see if it can be saved.

The motherboard is very curious, it is indeed 440BX based. I used the manual available in The Retro Web and according to that, the PCB can accommodate a 440ZX, a 440BX, an Apollo Pro+, or an Apollo Pro133.

The manual lists an onboard VRM 8.4, the spec that came out to accommodate the Coppermine CPUs. There's an onboard LM2637M as pointed out by Ozzuneoj earlier.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-03-21, 07:51:

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-03-21, 05:47:

That's kind of odd. The website you linked doesn't mention Coppermine support, even though it's a 440BX. Something worth checking out and letting us know if it's supported.

The voltage regulator should support the lower Coppermine voltages, so it's just a matter of whether the BIOS does or not.

The clock generator is a Cypress W144H, capable of up to 150 MHz FSB.
The motherboard has no fan headers though it has the silkscreen for a couple of them, has 7 expansion slots, and a lot of jumpers all over the place.

I tested a few Slot 1 CPUs and it posted with everything except for my Celeron 333 Engineering Sample.

Celeron 300A

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PentiumII 450

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Coppermine 750 MHz

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Coppermine 1000B (7.5x133)

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I couldnt find my stash of s370 CPUs to try any, so those tests are pending.
I did try the frequency jumpers, overriding the frequency to 100 MHz to overclock my 300A

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I think in the future Ill spend some time with this motherboard and see if there are any enhancements I can make.
The manual lists most of the jumper configs, but Ill poke around for undocumented features.

Wow, I didn't know there were BX variants of the Slot1/s370 combo boards. That's really cool, since BX is the shizzle when it comes to P!!! era ...

"Artist classic 350". By the sticker on the back I'm guessing this was a 350MHz machine at some point.

Nice "pro" looking case that I would love to put some dual-CPU hardware in (if I had such a motherboard anyway) with Win NT4.

Top slides off to reveal some handles, which when pulled reveal a very basic Soundblaster PCI and Geforce mx 440se and not-so-basic SS7 motherboard with a 500MHz K6-2.

Today I got those stuff:
-AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz Processor (ADA3200IAA4CW) (Orleans core, socket AM2) + AMD Stock cooler (CPU is from Week 16, 2007)
-Hynix 2GB DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) memory
-Kingston KVR (ValueRAM) KVR800D2N6/2G 2GB DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) memory
-Western Digital WD Caviar SE WD800JB-00JJC0 80GB 7200RPM 8MB cache IDE ATA/100 HDD
-LG GSA-H44N 18x Super Multi DVD writer IDE/ATAPI (white bezel) (manufactured April 2007)

Any opinions about what I got?

Also box version sound card

nice soundcard, the DREAM wt portion even has the fx processor for chorus/reverb - somewhat uncommon!

PcBytes wrote on 2025-04-06, 17:49:

So that's what was missing on my YMF719E-S card. Interesting 😀
(it's exactly the same card (same FCC ID even) bar the built-in wavetable and IDE interface, and instead has a header for external wavetable.)

wavetable chips were taken from this card

Years ago I actually bought a YMF71x card with the QS1000 chip present from factory, but it was in a very sorry state so I transplanted the chips to another card in much better state.