VOGONS


Bought these (retro) hardware today

Topic actions

Reply 56840 of 56847, by fosterwj03

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I received the Gigabyte Z370 HD3P I bought as a potential vanilla Windows 2000 retro rocket (and to multi-boot XP, Vista, and 7). I only had time to set up the board on a test bench for a quick test with an i5-8400 and 8GB of DDR4. For those interested in using newer Gigabyte boards with Windows 2000, I can confirm that this board has a MPS implementation compatible with Windows 2000.

Unfortunately, Windows 2000 didn't detect any of the PCI or PCIE devices in the expansion slots on the first boot (with the exception of the video card) , just like my experience with an Asus H310-Plus board. I kind of expected this since I haven't tweaked the UEFI settings yet. I also need to try adding a NVMe drive which allowed Windows 2000 to detect peripherals on my H310 board.

I also messed up the device detection on my Windows 2000 install and didn't set up AHCI controller support correctly. Now the drive won't boot. I'll need to re-image the drive and prep it for MPS and generic AHCI before doing more testing.

Reply 56841 of 56847, by gerry

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
clownwolf wrote on Yesterday, 10:11:

Got a Gainbery P120 Upgrade CPU for socket 4. While I am happy to have it, there's not much use-case for retro computing. In my opinion the point of using a Socket 4 is to use the P60 or P66 after all.

The attachment 20250523_025553.jpg is no longer available

you said that like you didnt want to give "your existing pentium 60/66 mhz system advanced power and performance" 😀

Still, it is interesting and i guess i couldn't resist comparing speeds with various benchmarks just to see

It's from an interesting time, when getting some small increase in cpu speed could yield a big proportional difference in experience while avoiding buying a new pc

Reply 56842 of 56847, by PC Hoarder Patrol

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
gerry wrote on Yesterday, 14:21:
you said that like you didnt want to give "your existing pentium 60/66 mhz system advanced power and performance" :) […]
Show full quote
clownwolf wrote on Yesterday, 10:11:

Got a Gainbery P120 Upgrade CPU for socket 4. While I am happy to have it, there's not much use-case for retro computing. In my opinion the point of using a Socket 4 is to use the P60 or P66 after all.

The attachment 20250523_025553.jpg is no longer available

you said that like you didnt want to give "your existing pentium 60/66 mhz system advanced power and performance" 😀

Still, it is interesting and i guess i couldn't resist comparing speeds with various benchmarks just to see

It's from an interesting time, when getting some small increase in cpu speed could yield a big proportional difference in experience while avoiding buying a new pc

They did have a benchmark page... https://web.archive.org/web/19961105030738/ht … om/686bench.htm

Reply 56843 of 56847, by devius

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-05-22, 21:46:

Hmmm I'm confused becuase unless im reading the data sheet wrong these are 4MB chips x 8 on the card for a total of 32MB's of ram.

Whoops! Not sure why I thought it was a 64MB card... 🤦 Sorry for the incorrect information.

Reply 56844 of 56847, by Major Jackyl

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Bought a box of junk at a garage sale. This was in the box:

The attachment 20250521_211118.jpg is no longer available
The attachment 20250521_211128.jpg is no longer available

I also grabbed this guy:

The attachment 20250523_204035.jpg is no longer available

It had all the parts, so I figured it would be fun. It takes full-size VHS, so I can actually play with this one if it works.

Main Loadout (daily drivers):
Intel TE430VX, Pentium Sy022 (133), Cirrus Logic 5440, SB16 CT1740
ECS K7S5A, A-XP1600+, MSI R9550
ASUS M2N-E, A64X2-4600+, PNY GTX670, SB X-Fi Elite Pro
MSI Z690, Intel 12900K, MSI RTX3090, SB AE-7

Reply 56845 of 56847, by clownwolf

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
PD2JK wrote on Yesterday, 11:14:
clownwolf wrote on Yesterday, 10:11:

Got a Gainbery P120 Upgrade CPU for socket 4. While I am happy to have it, there's not much use-case for retro computing. In my opinion the point of using a Socket 4 is to use the P60 or P66 after all.

The attachment 20250523_025553.jpg is no longer available

It's nevertheless an interesting piece of hardware which I've never heard of. Did they make their own core or is it some Cyrix/AMD/you-name-it deriative?
And is it about twice as fast compared to the first gen Pentium?

gerry wrote on Yesterday, 14:21:
you said that like you didnt want to give "your existing pentium 60/66 mhz system advanced power and performance" :) […]
Show full quote
clownwolf wrote on Yesterday, 10:11:

Got a Gainbery P120 Upgrade CPU for socket 4. While I am happy to have it, there's not much use-case for retro computing. In my opinion the point of using a Socket 4 is to use the P60 or P66 after all.

The attachment 20250523_025553.jpg is no longer available

you said that like you didnt want to give "your existing pentium 60/66 mhz system advanced power and performance" 😀

Still, it is interesting and i guess i couldn't resist comparing speeds with various benchmarks just to see

It's from an interesting time, when getting some small increase in cpu speed could yield a big proportional difference in experience while avoiding buying a new pc

I'll test the P60, P66 and P120 upgrade now and post the results on a new thread.

Actually I didnt need to test the P60 or P66, System Information already has P66 as a reference score. Also, this looks to be an actual P120 CPU they used. But cant be too sure unless I take the heatsink off, which is secured firmly.

Results show the Gainbery P120 upgrade as 80% faster than the P66 as per SysInfo 8.0, and a 25 FPS average on Doom Max Details Quake.

EDIT: I tried running tests again, buy SysInfo 8.0 no longer works. I am getting divide overflow error. I added a new screenshot for Speedsys 4.78 instead.

SysInfo 8.0

The attachment 20250523_205300.jpg is no longer available

SysInfo 8.0

The attachment 20250523_205217.jpg is no longer available

Doom Max Details Quake

The attachment 20250523_204754.jpg is no longer available

Batman's Revenge Socket 4 Motherboard

The attachment 20250523_205116.jpg is no longer available

Speedsys 4.78

The attachment 20250524_004456.jpg is no longer available
Last edited by clownwolf on 2025-05-24, 07:47. Edited 3 times in total.

Reply 56846 of 56847, by nhattu1986

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

My purchased arrived this week after a very long searching and fighting.
It this guy:

The attachment 25-05-22 20-37-30 2101.jpg is no longer available

It work fine for both midi and pcm audio, i'm playing around with its mixer.

Reply 56847 of 56847, by devius

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Probably the sound card with the biggest chips ever.