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Reply 30520 of 30541, by sunkindly

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Upgraded the RAM to 384MB for the Indigo2, which was the max supported for the R4000/4400 variants.

These machines are supposedly super picky about compatibility and it wasn't cheap so anxiety was high, but all is well so far.

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Reply 30521 of 30541, by Aui

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Today I started looking at an old Compaq590. Naturally I was expecting to find a Socket 5 Pentium 90. What I found instead was quite amazing:

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A K6-2 333 on a Socket 5 Board. This is quite a speed upgrade to the original - nice.

Reply 30522 of 30541, by marxveix

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Upgraded ct-6esa2 matx (440ex) cpu to Celeron 533 with slot1 to socket370 converter.
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/chaintech-ct-6esa2

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Reply 30523 of 30541, by H3nrik V!

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sunkindly wrote on 2025-12-04, 22:11:
Upgraded the RAM to 384MB for the Indigo2, which was the max supported for the R4000/4400 variants. […]
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Upgraded the RAM to 384MB for the Indigo2, which was the max supported for the R4000/4400 variants.

These machines are supposedly super picky about compatibility and it wasn't cheap so anxiety was high, but all is well so far.

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That picture of all that RAM installed is close to wallpaper worthy!

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 30524 of 30541, by H3nrik V!

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-12-04, 00:00:
Tried getting a V2 12MB to work. […]
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Tried getting a V2 12MB to work.

Can tell 3d works fine... but I only get a very dark blue-ish polarized image using my NEC Multisync monitor.

I'm stumped... is this a RAMDAC, or a FBI issue?

Photo below. Supposed to be the NFS5 Porsche Unleashed main menu, as I have set the game to use the Voodoo 2 instead of the main GPU (ed Prophet II GTS Pro 64MB.

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Only things I have not done:

- reflow FBI pins (it's the only chip I haven't touched)
- reflow all RAM chips (which I've done on a 4MB original Voodoo, which I unfortunately suspect of bad RAM on FBI - at least I know where to find donors 🤣 (S3 Trio, Rage IIC, any old cards using PCI.)

I guess making a new thread would yield a lot more info - it tends to "drown" in this thread.

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 30525 of 30541, by MattRocks

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Aui wrote on 2025-12-05, 08:31:

Today I started looking at an old Compaq590. Naturally I was expecting to find a Socket 5 Pentium 90. What I found instead was quite amazing:

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A K6-2 333 on a Socket 5 Board. This is quite a speed upgrade to the original - nice.

That is amazing. I was tempted to start a competition thread: Take any motherboard (any era), what is the most recent game you make playable on it?

Score = (game_release_year - motherboard_release_year) * democratic_vote.

Your Compaq would be in a good place!

Reply 30526 of 30541, by GigAHerZ

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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-10-31, 09:44:
Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories. Used this one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files […]
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Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories.
Used this one:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files

For top piece, i just used slicer to set an area that has no walls and no infill. Result is cut off poles for the top piece.

Now i need to desing similar thing on my own for 72pin and 30pin ram sticks...

And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks.

I did use OpenSCAD for this, but it became extremely slow so i have built the same thing using JS-based ManifoldCAD in VSCode: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?it … scode-extension

They came out so well that i probably want to use my design for the SO-DIMM/SDRAM organization and print those to replace the current ones...

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
A little about software engineering: https://byteaether.github.io/

Reply 30527 of 30541, by PcBytes

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-12-05, 08:59:
PcBytes wrote on 2025-12-04, 00:00:
Tried getting a V2 12MB to work. […]
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Tried getting a V2 12MB to work.

Can tell 3d works fine... but I only get a very dark blue-ish polarized image using my NEC Multisync monitor.

I'm stumped... is this a RAMDAC, or a FBI issue?

Photo below. Supposed to be the NFS5 Porsche Unleashed main menu, as I have set the game to use the Voodoo 2 instead of the main GPU (ed Prophet II GTS Pro 64MB.

file.php?mode=view&id=232134

Only things I have not done:

- reflow FBI pins (it's the only chip I haven't touched)
- reflow all RAM chips (which I've done on a 4MB original Voodoo, which I unfortunately suspect of bad RAM on FBI - at least I know where to find donors 🤣 (S3 Trio, Rage IIC, any old cards using PCI.)

I guess making a new thread would yield a lot more info - it tends to "drown" in this thread.

I did fix that issue - R25 was broken. Now I just need to figure out where it's slightly artefacting from.

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Reply 30528 of 30541, by PC@LIVE

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Aui wrote on 2025-12-05, 08:31:

Today I started looking at an old Compaq590. Naturally I was expecting to find a Socket 5 Pentium 90. What I found instead was quite amazing:

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A K6-2 333 on a Socket 5 Board. This is quite a speed upgrade to the original - nice.

Very nice 😍 congratulations
I don't know if you can change the VCORE, if you can the maximum would be a K6-2+, with the multi 2X it would automatically go to 400, and the integrated cache L2 at the same frequency, should give a nice increase in performance, however, it must be said that the FSB should be raised to 66 MHz from the 60 of the P90, because otherwise 😅 it would go to 360 MHz instead of 400.

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Reply 30529 of 30541, by Dan386DX

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My latest socket 462 motherboard arrived, the seller just happened to not mention that about half the caps are like this…

I’ve not seen leakage this colour before, normally the plague is kind of a dark, crusty brown.

At first I thought this might just be dried flux or something.

But actually, these are kinda domed and probably need changing anyway 😫

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Reply 30530 of 30541, by zuldan

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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-12-05, 14:19:
And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks. […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-10-31, 09:44:
Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories. Used this one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files […]
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Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories.
Used this one:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files

For top piece, i just used slicer to set an area that has no walls and no infill. Result is cut off poles for the top piece.

Now i need to desing similar thing on my own for 72pin and 30pin ram sticks...

And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks.

I did use OpenSCAD for this, but it became extremely slow so i have built the same thing using JS-based ManifoldCAD in VSCode: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?it … scode-extension

They came out so well that i probably want to use my design for the SO-DIMM/SDRAM organization and print those to replace the current ones...

Those look great. Where can I download your 30pin and 72pin version for printing?

Reply 30531 of 30541, by PcBytes

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Dan386DX wrote on 2025-12-05, 20:38:
My latest socket 462 motherboard arrived, the seller just happened to not mention that about half the caps are like this… […]
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My latest socket 462 motherboard arrived, the seller just happened to not mention that about half the caps are like this…

I’ve not seen leakage this colour before, normally the plague is kind of a dark, crusty brown.

At first I thought this might just be dried flux or something.

But actually, these are kinda domed and probably need changing anyway 😫

I've seen Chemicon KZGs bulge and barf and their colour is spot on to how you've described. They're to be replaced anyways.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
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Reply 30532 of 30541, by GigAHerZ

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zuldan wrote on 2025-12-05, 20:51:
GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-12-05, 14:19:
And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks. […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-10-31, 09:44:
Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories. Used this one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files […]
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Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories.
Used this one:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files

For top piece, i just used slicer to set an area that has no walls and no infill. Result is cut off poles for the top piece.

Now i need to desing similar thing on my own for 72pin and 30pin ram sticks...

And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks.

I did use OpenSCAD for this, but it became extremely slow so i have built the same thing using JS-based ManifoldCAD in VSCode: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?it … scode-extension

They came out so well that i probably want to use my design for the SO-DIMM/SDRAM organization and print those to replace the current ones...

Those look great. Where can I download your 30pin and 72pin version for printing?

I'm currently working on getting them up into thingiverse. Just made an account and it seems i have to wait 24h before i can publish anything.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
A little about software engineering: https://byteaether.github.io/

Reply 30533 of 30541, by Ozzuneoj

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This has been over the past few weeks, but I have been on a roll when it comes to getting weird old devices working. These have all been set aside for repair, some for up to seven years.

In order of when I worked on them:

1. Yuan JRS-3DS100 - Nvidia NV1 2MB PCI - Reflowed all chips, fixed several broken SMD components (replaced all electrolytics a few years ago) - Result = 100% working card!

2. CyberRex 128 VR - Avance Logic ALG25128 4MB PCI - Reflowed all chips, replaced soldered memory chips, replaced some SMD components - Result = 80% working card! (artifacts at very high refresh rates and resolutions, but totally fine otherwise)

3. Aristo\Bannsan BS-5 - Alliance AT3D 4MB PCI - Replaced all electrolytic caps years ago; Found broken solder joints with microscope and reflowed them two days ago; installed least buggy driver version - Result = 100% working card! ... well 100% as far as what an AT3D can do. It is still buggy in games but overall works great!

4. Britec Viewtop BP-S3Ax - S3 Trio64v+ 4MB PCI (All Socketed)
- Uncommon card that is good for testing memory chips since all are socketed; replaced a bad memory chip and discovered a compatibility issue with my 440BX tester PC (not sure if software or hardware yet) - Result = 100% working card! (In a different PC...)

5. & 6. Artist Graphics Artist 2000\Netvision 2000 - Artist Graphics 3GA 2MB PCI - Two identical cards; one needed a broken SMD component replaced; Neither worked properly in Windows with any drivers I tried... until I tried the latest "Netvision" drivers that apparently work perfectly! Result = 2 x 100% working cards!

Here is a random assortment of things I have learned over the past few weeks:

Buy a binocular microscope! It is worth it. So is a hot air station. Build proficiency with those tools. Learn to use flux and solder paste.

When inspecting cards: always always check for bent or shorted pins\legs on chips before powering the device on.

If there is a problem, check for damaged components (look for scratches or scuffs and then follow their path); test for loose chip legs with a microscope (5x power) and a sewing needle; check for broken solder joints even on SMD components like SOJ memory (the gap may be visible from the side).

Visual artifacts that pop up and go away when touching a chip or PCB may be a loose\floating leg on a memory chip. Don't assume that tiny SMD components are okay. Capacitors and resistors can be physically broken or cracked in a way that breaks a circuit even if both ends of the component are still attached to the PCB.

Don't forget to clean flux from card edge connectors before testing them. Flux likes to get everywhere and leave a nasty coating, especially after you've tried cleaning it up with alcohol. This will prevent a card from getting good contact in the slot, which may lead you to believe it is the same or worse off than before you repaired it.

... there are many many other things, but that's a good start. I'm not sure which card is next on the list, but I know I have more that have been on the "need repaired" list for years.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 30534 of 30541, by fosterwj03

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You could call me a bit of a masochist, but while installing various Operating Systems to test the functionality of my first 386DX build with only 8MB of RAM currently installed, I got Windows NT 3.51 running on the system with almost no effort. I was shocked that the NT installer didn’t complain that the system didn’t meet the minimum memory requirement for NT 3.51 (12MB). It happily copied the files to the hard drive from the CD-ROM and booted right into the GUI portion of setup.

Ultimately, I want to use a Cyrix 486DLC, 87DLC coprocessor, and 32MB of RAM on this motherboard for my project, but I’m having a lot of fun already just putting the AMD 386DX-40 though its paces. Here are the current specs of the build (runs pretty well):

- Biostar MB-1333AEA-Q
-- AMD 386DX-40
-- 8MB of FPM RAM (70ns)
-- 256KB Cache (20ns)
- Generic ISA Winbond Super I/O controller for Serial, Floppy, and Primary IDE
-- Western Digital 80GB IDE Hard Drive (temporary)
-- GOTEK Floppy Emulator
- Future Domain IDE-16011 for Secondary IDE
-- Hitachi 16x CD-ROM Drive (temporary)
- Diamond Speedstar Pro ISA (CL-GD5429)
- MediaVision Pro Audio Spectrum 16 (PAS16-SL)
- DTC1181 Option ROM Card (for drives up to 8GB)
- Voltage Blaster

Reply 30535 of 30541, by myne

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Crazy how fast it runs, isn't it?
I played around years ago but with 16mb.

Microsoft could learn a few tricks.

I built:
Convert old ASUS ASC boardviews to KICAD PCB!
Re: A comprehensive guide to install and play MechWarrior 2 on new versions on Windows.
Dos+Windows 3.11+tcp+vbe_svga auto-install iso template
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Reply 30536 of 30541, by fosterwj03

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I like NT 3.51 for its stability and the retro Windows interface. I didn't use NT as my daily driver OS until NT 4.0, though. I've learned to appreciate NT 3.51 in later years.

I will say that the GUI is reasonably snappy on the 386 even with 8MB of RAM (I'm not editing huge spreadsheets or hundred-page PowerPoint slides). Apps load in a second or two. I would say that the ISA bus is really holding the system back. It takes about 2 minutes to boot from power-on to the usable desktop on a modern IDE hard drive, and the ISA video card (even a relatively fast 2D accelerator) takes a bit of time to redraw the screen at 1024x768, 256 colors.

Reply 30537 of 30541, by GigAHerZ

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zuldan wrote on 2025-12-05, 20:51:
GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-12-05, 14:19:
And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks. […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-10-31, 09:44:
Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories. Used this one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files […]
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Printed some RAM holders for my SDR/DDRx and So-DIMM memories.
Used this one:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4847265/files

For top piece, i just used slicer to set an area that has no walls and no infill. Result is cut off poles for the top piece.

Now i need to desing similar thing on my own for 72pin and 30pin ram sticks...

And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks.

I did use OpenSCAD for this, but it became extremely slow so i have built the same thing using JS-based ManifoldCAD in VSCode: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?it … scode-extension

They came out so well that i probably want to use my design for the SO-DIMM/SDRAM organization and print those to replace the current ones...

Those look great. Where can I download your 30pin and 72pin version for printing?

Behold, it has been published!

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7223953

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
A little about software engineering: https://byteaether.github.io/

Reply 30538 of 30541, by zuldan

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GigAHerZ wrote on Yesterday, 23:46:
zuldan wrote on 2025-12-05, 20:51:
GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-12-05, 14:19:

And I've learned the tools and designed similar frames to 30pin and 72pin ram sticks.

I did use OpenSCAD for this, but it became extremely slow so i have built the same thing using JS-based ManifoldCAD in VSCode: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?it … scode-extension

They came out so well that i probably want to use my design for the SO-DIMM/SDRAM organization and print those to replace the current ones...

Those look great. Where can I download your 30pin and 72pin version for printing?

Behold, it has been published!

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7223953

That's great. They will be really handy for storing my stock. Thank you for your time with this. I've grabbed a copy.