Those sidewinder wheels (even the force feedback ones) are dirt cheap on ebay. I couldn't resist getting both the wheel and the Force Feedback Joystick.
NFS Porsche runs fine also on PIII 900, so it will run fine on any Athlon XP.
As for Voodoo 2, I have it but never use it. I got it for like €10 after persuading a pensioner it isn't that useful because VGA cable is missing, drivers are hard to find, not sure if it works etc. Therefore, I wouldn't recommend anyone to buy it.
I got a Logitech Force 3d pro not long ago. It's a decent force feedback joystick. It's well supported as it's quite old.
Pentium III 900E,ECS P6BXT-A+,384MB,GeForce FX 5600, Voodoo 2,Yamaha SM718
Athlon 64 3400+,Gigabyte GA-K8NE,2GB,GeForce GTX 275,Audigy 2 ZS
Phenom II X4 955,Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3,8GB,GeForce GTX 780
Vishera FX-8370,Asus 990FX,32GB,GeForce GTX 980 Ti
Law212 wrote on 2026-03-25, 19:32:Try to add a voodoo 2. I know that people list them at high prices, but i was able to get a Monster voodoo 2 12 Meg card from a local guy for 75 dollars , and a second one not too long ago from a guy who listed it at 400 dollars . I offered 100 and he accepted.
Even an 8 meg version wouldnt be bad.
I have a voodoo 3 already in my socket 7 build. So I’m good 😬 I used to have a 12MB voodoo2, I bought it new but sold it a few years ago (which I ofcourse now regret!!)
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2026-03-25, 19:57:Those sidewinder wheels (even the force feedback ones) are dirt cheap on ebay. I couldn't resist getting both the wheel and the Force Feedback Joystick.
I might get one. I have a Logitech force feedback wheel that I think is old enough to work on win98 but I’ve yet to actually try it
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
FullYes wrote on 2026-03-26, 20:54:Law212 wrote on 2026-03-25, 19:32:Try to add a voodoo 2. I know that people list them at high prices, but i was able to get a Monster voodoo 2 12 Meg card from a local guy for 75 dollars , and a second one not too long ago from a guy who listed it at 400 dollars . I offered 100 and he accepted.
Even an 8 meg version wouldnt be bad.
I have a voodoo 3 already in my socket 7 build. So I’m good 😬 I used to have a 12MB voodoo2, I bought it new but sold it a few years ago (which I ofcourse now regret!!)
Yeah i posted that before I read further. The system seems great.
I had some time today to install the Audigy 2 ZS
However it is “detected” even less than the Audigy 1. It neither shows up in device manager nor in the PCI device list.
I tried to flash the motherboard to an alternative bios version which was problematic. It was running 1018.004 beta and I wanted to flash to 1017. Uniflash reported verification errors and I almost left myself needing a chip programmer, but I was able to do a successful flash without rebooting using the utility off the ASUS website; where the motherboard still has support/downloads. Quite impressive considering its age
This did not solve the issue unfortunately. But it did fix another issue in the bios reporting the multiplier incorrectly. A minor win, but something to make me think I’m best sticking with an earlier bios than the beta one
I thought I should try some other pci cards to see what happened with them. I tried an Intel network card and a via ide/Sata card and both were detected and appear to be functioning.
Christ I knew via chipsets and creative cards didn’t get on, but this is crazy!
I am fairly sure the issue is with the southbridge chip as there have been several issues intermittently appearing and disappearing in device manager with USB root hubs, and with the primary ide controller. None of these seem to be causing stability issues, but obviously not being able to have audio is a bit of a deal breaker.
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
Have you tried the card in different slots? Sometimes that can help.
Yeah I tried all 3 of the slots I could use without changing to a different GPU, and there was no difference
Since my last post, I got the card to show up in device manager. I flashed to bios 1016 and then i could at least see it in device manager, but it’s still missing from the PCI device list and won’t work without an IRQ assignment. I can force an IRQ onto the slot it’s in, but it makes no difference.
The onboard USB 2.0 controller isn’t working, it has the same symptoms; reporting an error in device manager (no IRQ assigned by BIOS) and missing from the PCI device list
The onboard Audio was disabled by a jumper. I tried enabling it and again, same symptoms - no sign of it in PCI device list but I can see it in device manager
These are all running through the PCI bus on the southbridge. I’ve no idea why the two other add-in cards I tried
work fine though 🤷🏼♂️
So, what now? New motherboard?
Well, I never managed to sell the KT133A board. It is still for sale, but I didn’t want to take any less than what it owed me. I put it back to standard and built it up as a complete system with bits I accumulated during these builds and it works just fine now. It’s now running the 2000+ Palomino that came in the A7v333. It looks like it’s earned a stay of execution!
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
Today I resurrected the KT133A setup. The Audigy 2 ZS is up and running now, following the install process thread I found on here. It was not plain sailing, with several crashes but it is all installed and working in the end.
Onto trying the wheel. It’s a Logitech G27. But it does not work. It is detected and drivers install using the driver package from the thread I found on here for the G25, but it then gives me the yellow exclamation mark of doom in device manager and that’s as far as I can get. It also fails to work on the socket 7. I am wondering if it needs usb 2.0. Neither machine has any 2.0 ports and I just sold all my add in cards as I didn’t like having them take up any and all spare IRQs. I confirm it is working in my modern PC. So perhaps I will get myself a sidewinder wheel (again) afterall
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
Good day
Today I received a sidewinder force feedback wheel. I had a non-force feedback one back in the day
I did not realise before buying, that there was both a game port and a USB version of the wheel. I have ended up with a game port one. Which isn’t ideal as my Audigy doesn’t have the riser
In my eagerness to test it out, I enabled the game port on the motherboard from the onboard audio
After a false start with installing the wrong drivers, I got it working, but there’s an issue with the force feedback. There’s no data getting out to the wheel. I need to investigate further, and see if I have a DB15 cable and riser somewhere
Not having the force feedback wouldn’t be a deal breaker, but there are times when it’s clearly waiting for a response from the wheel and it causes a major slowdown. Once in a game, it works beautifully playing nfs:porsche. Just without the feedback
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
I had suspected that the onboard gameport was the reason for the force feedback issue. I decided to try installing my spare vibra 16 in the ISA slot and disabled the onboard audio/gameport. Now I have force feedback 😎
System 1: K6-3 400, MS-5158 (430TX), 256MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 PCI, AWE64 (Dos/95-early 98)
System 2: Athlon XP 2000+, SL-75KAV (KT133A), 512MB SDRAM, FX5900XT, Audigy 2 ZS (late 98)
System 3: i7-2600k, P8P67-M, 2x4GB DDR3-1866, GTX 460 (XP)
Nice. Have fun! I didn't actually know this wheel had a USB variant. I thought it was gameport only. So I learned something today!