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Reply 100 of 133, by mwdmeyer

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vico wrote on 2026-10-14, 15:02:

Can I use this to install an ATI Radeon 9200 on Windows 95?

Not yet, but in future I will look into it! Only the Rage 2/3 (IIC/Pro etc), Rage 128 and newer are not supported (yet).

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Reply 101 of 133, by vico

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marxveix wrote on 2026-10-14, 16:44:

You say that Catalyst 3.4 driver does not work for you with Catalyst 3.1 or Catalyst 3.2 OpenGL?

They do not work with an ATI Radeon 9200 AGP on Windows 95

Reply 102 of 133, by vico

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mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-14, 21:02:

Not yet, but in future I will look into it! Only the Rage 2/3 (IIC/Pro etc), Rage 128 and newer are not supported (yet).

Great.

Reply 103 of 133, by mwdmeyer

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marxveix wrote on 2026-10-14, 17:05:

Velocity9x 0.18.0 ati driver and Aticubes demo. Try the background demo get to the same color as ATi stock driver has.
Here visible how they should look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnahhue0VWs

I did try Formula 1 and Tomb Raider 3DCIF games, more work todo there. Log i can send.

Can you send me your V9XCIF.LOG file

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Reply 104 of 133, by marxveix

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mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-15, 12:06:
marxveix wrote on 2026-10-14, 17:05:

Velocity9x 0.18.0 ati driver and Aticubes demo. Try the background demo get to the same color as ATi stock driver has.
Here visible how they should look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnahhue0VWs

I did try Formula 1 and Tomb Raider 3DCIF games, more work todo there. Log i can send.

Can you send me your V9XCIF.LOG file

You got it now.

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / GLUT / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 105 of 133, by mwdmeyer

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marxveix wrote on 2026-10-15, 20:49:
mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-15, 12:06:
marxveix wrote on 2026-10-14, 17:05:

Velocity9x 0.18.0 ati driver and Aticubes demo. Try the background demo get to the same color as ATi stock driver has.
Here visible how they should look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnahhue0VWs

I did try Formula 1 and Tomb Raider 3DCIF games, more work todo there. Log i can send.

Can you send me your V9XCIF.LOG file

You got it now.

Made some fixes: https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/rel … ses/tag/v0.18.5

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Reply 106 of 133, by rmay635703

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Should figure out how to backport AMD A9 drivers to 9x, 2k, XP and 7

Tons of these very modern, very slow and useless SOCs are floating around for near free in Dell AIO systems but they aren’t good for anything but legacy software which they are too slow to run under emulation but would work great on bare metal but no drivers exist and of coarse the UFIE issues

Reply 107 of 133, by myne

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I agree.
GCN should come after Intel IGPU though.
By hardware sales, Intel IGPUs are in about 80% of all PCs.
There are millions of Atoms out there with zero purpose that with 9x drivers might become pretty good.

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Reply 108 of 133, by rmay635703

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myne wrote on 2026-10-16, 01:25:
I agree. GCN should come after Intel IGPU though. By hardware sales, Intel IGPUs are in about 80% of all PCs. There are million […]
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I agree.
GCN should come after Intel IGPU though.
By hardware sales, Intel IGPUs are in about 80% of all PCs.
There are millions of Atoms out there with zero purpose that with 9x drivers might become pretty good.

Any mediocre SOC in my mind is game, even the SO called Celeron and Pentium in name only igpus are cheap and useless at this point.

Reply 109 of 133, by mwdmeyer

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I will probably do whatever is in the i5-9500T as I have a SFF Optiplex with one.

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Reply 110 of 133, by myne

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I agree. Not my project though.

By my rough calculations, sandybridge igpu should comfortably beat the 6800 which is "the last 9x" gpu without workarounds, basically bugs/missing features aside, implying great performance in all 9x only titles (not xp+). 9x only titles should have broadly stopped by 2002 after xp. Very few devs would have not known xp was coming by 2001, and mindlessly continued down the 9x path, so it may have been earlier. I'd actually assume by 2000 they would have known which apis are likely to be deprecated.
In any case, sandyb should be more than adequate.
Scale your expectations accordingly.

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Reply 111 of 133, by myne

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mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-16, 02:07:

I will probably do whatever is in the i5-9500T as I have a SFF Optiplex with one.

Ah cool. Likely to be broadly similar up and down the tree to core 1 and core 10? Before their new name.

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Reply 112 of 133, by rmay635703

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mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-16, 02:07:

I will probably do whatever is in the i5-9500T as I have a SFF Optiplex with one.

Efforts to make one driver for all that is Intel igpu have occurred so it is possible if you get one working the rest won’t be tough.

myne wrote on 2026-10-16, 02:14:
mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-16, 02:07:

I will probably do whatever is in the i5-9500T as I have a SFF Optiplex with one.

Ah cool. Likely to be broadly similar up and down the tree to core 1 and core 10? Before their new name.

See above unified intel drivers have been a thing so we might get a bit of joy if he is successful.

Reply 113 of 133, by mwdmeyer

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Intel made lots of changes Gen3 (GMA900/950) is pretty different to Gen4/5 (they are the same). But it only takes 1-2 days to get the basics going, so it will be worth it. The GMA900/950 is working alright now (not perfect) so unless someone logs some specific issues I will try a new gen soon.

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Reply 114 of 133, by dr.zeissler

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What about getting even lower like Intel I815e and 845/865 ?

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Reply 115 of 133, by myne

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They have drivers?

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Reply 116 of 133, by marxveix

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mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-16, 01:01:

Tomb Raider (cif) works better and fog visible with Shadows of the Empire (shadows.exe).

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33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 117 of 133, by rmay635703

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dr.zeissler wrote on 2026-10-16, 09:13:

What about getting even lower like Intel I815e and 845/865 ?

Yeah I have some of those as well in the form of the really terrible celerons from the bygone past.

Even if performance isn’t maxed on these onboard gpu / SOC solutions they still are good enough for a lot of legacy stuff, not everyone need high res and 60fps

Reply 118 of 133, by dr.zeissler

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While the driver development is continuously expanding it would be very helpful to have a matrix what is offered for which chip-family. First I thought that this driver offers 3dfx support/ati-cif support on matrox-millenium, but the readme shows that this depends on the chip the driver is installed, even if the driver-package for matrox installs the glide/cif files.

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Reply 119 of 133, by mwdmeyer

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Yeah I need todo that, I should be able to get it work on Matrox Mill 2 but not sure what speed will be like! I'll update info in next release (I'm working on Intel HD 4600 GPU support now)

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