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ThinkPad 600E and MS-DOS memory optimization

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First post, by oeuvre

Posted on 2017-10-10, 04:15

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Hey all,

Usually I'm pretty good with MS-DOS memory optimization but this one is bugging me. I'm only getting 540K free conventional. It's MS-DOS 6.22, WfW 3.11. It's the PCMCIA drivers and the Xircom ethernet card eating it up. If I set it up without those I get 605K free but no internet on WfW 3.11. Memmaker makes it worse at 528K

Here is the AUTOEXEC.BAT

1@ECHO OFF
2PROMPT $p$g
3PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS
4SET TEMP=C:\DOS
5SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\CDROM
6SET MTCPCFG=C:\NET\TCP.CFG
7SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
8LH /L:0;2,272 /S C:\DOS\ENVIMAX N+
9LH /L:0;1,16400 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
10LH C:\CRYSTAL\CWDMIX /C=13 /L=13
11LH /L:1,6144 DOSKEY
12LH /L:0;1,3328 /S MOUSE
13LH /L:0;3,42432 /S C:\WINDOWS\net start
14LH /L:0;3,6352 /S C:\CDROM\SHCDX33F.COM /D:MSCD000
15SET PS2MSG=C:\THINKPAD\PS2.MSG
16SET PATH=C:\CRYSTAL;C:\THINKPAD;%PATH%;C:\CARDWIZ

CONFIG.SYS

1SWITCHES /F
2DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /Q /TESTMEM:OFF /NUMHANDLES=128
3DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM I=B000-B7FF X=D000-D7FF AUTO NOTR
4DOS=HIGH,UMB
5BUFFERS=11,0
6FILES=50
7LASTDRIVE=G
8FCBS=1,0
9STACKS=0,0
10DEVICEHIGH /L:0;2,8112 /S =C:\DOS\POWER.EXE
11DEVICEHIGH=C:\CRYSTAL\CWDINIT.EXE
12DEVICEHIGH /L:1,12048 =C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
13DEVICEHIGH /L:2,11264 =C:\CDROM\VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:MSCD000
14DEVICEHIGH /L:2,4560 =C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
15
16rem SystemSoft CardSoft/16(TM) PCMCIA Drivers
17devicehigh=C:\CARDWIZ\CARDXTND.SYS
18devicehigh=C:\CARDWIZ\SSCBTI.SYS /NUMADA:2 /ADA1SKTS:1 /ADA2SKTS:1
19devicehigh=C:\CARDWIZ\CS.SYS /POLL:1
20devicehigh=C:\CARDWIZ\CSALLOC.EXE
21devicehigh=C:\CARDWIZ\CARDID.SYS
22install=C:\CARDWIZ\CS_APM.EXE

and output of mem /c

1Modules using memory below 1 MB:
2
3  Name           Total       =   Conventional   +   Upper Memory
4  --------  ----------------   ----------------   ----------------
5  MSDOS       14,125   (14K)     14,125   (14K)          0    (0K)
6  HIMEM        1,120    (1K)      1,120    (1K)          0    (0K)
7  EMM386       3,120    (3K)      3,120    (3K)          0    (0K)
8  POWER           80    (0K)         80    (0K)          0    (0K)
9  CARDXTND    24,928   (24K)     24,928   (24K)          0    (0K)
10  CS          12,544   (12K)     12,544   (12K)          0    (0K)
11  CARDID       2,480    (2K)      2,480    (2K)          0    (0K)
12  CS_APM       1,888    (2K)      1,888    (2K)          0    (0K)
13  COMMAND      2,928    (3K)      2,656    (3K)        272    (0K)
14  SMARTDRV    29,040   (28K)     12,640   (12K)     16,400   (16K)
15  PROTMAN        400    (0K)        400    (0K)          0    (0K)
16  XCEMNDIS    22,480   (22K)     22,480   (22K)          0    (0K)
17  NDISHLP      1,440    (1K)      1,440    (1K)          0    (0K)
18  SETVER         448    (0K)          0    (0K)        448    (0K)
19  --------        80    (0K)          0    (0K)         80    (0K
20  DOSKEY       3,968    (4K)          0    (0K)      3,968    (4K)
21  MOUSE        3,328    (3K)          0    (0K)      3,328    (3K)
22  POWER        4,672    (5K)          0    (0K)      4,672    (5K
23  VIDE-CDD     5,056    (5K)          0    (0K)      5,056    (5K)
24  IFSHLP       3,904    (4K)          0    (0K)      3,904    (4K)
25  SSCBTI         416    (0K)          0    (0K)        416    (0K)
26  SHCDX33F     6,352    (6K)          0    (0K)      6,352    (6K)
27  
28  Free       584,992  (571K)    553,264  (540K)     31,728   (31K)
29
30Memory Summary:
31
32  Type of Memory       Total   =    Used    +    Free
33  ----------------  ----------   ----------   ----------
34  Conventional         653,312      100,048      553,264
35  Upper                 76,624       44,896       31,728
36  Reserved                   0            0            0
37  Extended (XMS)*   67,031,216    3,450,032   63,581,184
38  ----------------  ----------   ----------   ----------
39  Total memory      67,761,152    3,594,976   64,166,17
40  Total under 1 MB     729,936      144,944      584,992
41  Total Expanded (EMS)                33,947,648 (33,152K
42  Free Expanded (EMS)*                33,538,048 (32,752K
43
44  * EMM386 is using XMS memory to simulate EMS memory as needed.
45    Free EMS memory may change as free XMS memory changes.
46
47  Largest executable program size        553,136   (540K)
48  Largest free upper memory block         25,984    (25K)
49  MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

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Reply 1 of 5, by Deksor

Posted on 2017-10-10, 05:24

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What does output "mem /f /p" ?

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Reply 2 of 5, by matze79

Posted on 2017-10-10, 05:59

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This is no wonder, you have loaded a whole shitload.

Create a menu and load only drivers needed for different operations.

E.g -> Games -> only Sound, CD-Rom.

Replace EMM386.EXE for non-ems Operation with UMBPCI.SYS.
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html

if you want EMS without emm386.exe get EMSMAGIC, its now freeware and works without protect mode.
Can be loaded in High Memory and also in Conventional Memory.
And unloaded on demand.
http://www.emsmagic.com/

EMS Magic also works unter 32bit x86 Windows including Win 8 - NTVDM Box.

Do you really need this ?
LH /L:0;1,16400 /S C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
LH /L:1,6144 DOSKEY

Smartdrv can be replaced by uide.sys, which also enables DMA under MS-DOS.

LH /L:0;1,3328 /S MOUSE
(Only 3Kb ? ah this is not MS Mouse.com ?)

Do you run old DOS Stuff that you need to fake Version Numbers ?
if not you can remove that too.
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,12048 =C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE

Working battery ? 😀
DEVICEHIGH /L:0;2,8112 /S =C:\DOS\POWER.EXE
though i never used this on my T600.

Your Cardservice is pretty hungry, i would only load it if needed.

This will help you too:
http://madsenworld.dk/con_auto/index-uk.htm

Reply 3 of 5, by oeuvre

Posted on 2017-10-10, 13:21

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Deksor wrote:
What does output "mem /f /p" ?

1Free Conventional Memory:
2
3  Segment         Total
4  -------   -----------------
5   00EE2          224    (0K)
6   00EF0           32    (0K)
7   017F8       88,992   (87K)
8   02DB2      466,128  (455K)
9   
10  Total Free: 555,376  (542K)
11
12Free Upper Memory:
13
14  Region   Largest Free     Total Free      Total Size
15  ------  --------------  --------------  --------------
16      1     3,456   (3K)    3,632   (4K)   27,456  (27K)
17      2     2,480   (2K)    2,480   (2K)   16,384  (16K)
18      3    24,144  (24K)   24,160  (24K)   32,768  (32K)

As for the UMBPCI and other suggestions I'll try those when i have more time after work

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Reply 4 of 5, by oeuvre

Posted on 2017-10-11, 16:57

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Alright I just decided to go with having 2 sets of config.sys + autoexec.bat files, one for Windows 3.11 and networking (PCMCIA card) and one for DOS games. 542K vs. 605K. Over 600K should be plenty for the things I play.. even Doom and Wolftenstein 3D work fine in 542K

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Reply 5 of 5, by matze79

Posted on 2017-10-13, 11:15

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You just need One Set, you can make a config menu with config.sys and autoexec.bat 😀
Like on Windows Bootdisc (With CD-Rom, Without CD-Rom...)

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