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Reply 60 of 74, by matcarfer

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KT7AGuy wrote:

Well, my attempt to mod the *.inf files has failed. I couldn't find anyplace within the files that would differentiate between an OEM and retail version of the card. Whatever mechanism the installer media uses to identify hardware goes beyond the *.inf files. I'm sorry I couldn't help. Maybe somebody with more experience than me can jump in here and lend a hand.

Yeah. I recently discovered a CTcomp.exe which modifies the setup files, still with no luck. It wont detect my card on Win98SE. SB0358, damn you! 😉

Reply 61 of 74, by wiretap

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I recently had the same issue while building one of my Win98/XP dual boot retro gaming PC's with a Dell SB Audigy2 ZS. I had to use a different PCI slot and it started working and recognized it just fine after that. The last/bottom PCI slot on my Abit NF7-S V2.0 worked for me, whereas none of the other PCI slots would. (the other PCI slots function as expected with other PCI cards)

I used the driver in this package: SBAX_PCDRV_LB_2_18_0010.exe under XP, and used the original installation media for Win98 with the VXD driver.

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Reply 62 of 74, by matcarfer

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wiretap wrote:

I recently had the same issue while building one of my Win98/XP dual boot retro gaming PC's with a Dell SB Audigy2 ZS. I had to use a different PCI slot and it started working and recognized it just fine after that. The last/bottom PCI slot on my Abit NF7-S V2.0 worked for me, whereas none of the other PCI slots would. (the other PCI slots function as expected with other PCI cards)

I used the driver in this package: SBAX_PCDRV_LB_2_18_0010.exe under XP, and used the original installation media for Win98 with the VXD driver.

I achieved success installing SB0358 Audigy 2 ZS (Dell OEM), on Win98SE and official VXD Drivers with EAX doing other things:
1- I went to AUDIO/DRIVERS/VXD and decompressed VXD.cab on the same folder, so all files are in VXD folder.
2- Then forced the installation going to Device Manager and manually selecting the INF.
3- Card got installed, got sound, but no EAX and of course no applications.
4- Then went to AUDIO/DRIVERS and run CTZAPXX and it let me choose VXD or WDM drivers, so I clickd VXD and success, card got EAX and got properly installed.
5- Installed manually EaxCon-Diagnose-CTEq and some more apps.
6- Success! Couldnt be happier!

Last edited by matcarfer on 2020-03-31, 02:19. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 63 of 74, by jerry507

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This thread helped lead to my eventual success struggling against these Dell Audigy 2 ZS cards, but I had to make a small modification to the procedure matcarfer gave above. When I performed his second step (forcing the installation of the drivers through Device Manager) I had two choices from the .inf files extracted from VXD.cab: "Emu10kx.inf" and "SB16.inf". Initially I tried "Emu10kx.inf" and this did get sound working, but no EAX. Also when I tried to run CTZAPXX from step 4 it ONLY allowed me to select the WDM drivers.

My solution was installing the "SB16.inf" drivers, which are SB16 emulation drivers. When I did that and proceeded to step 4 I was given the VXD option. After a bit of waiting and a restart my Audigy 2 ZS worked including EAX.

Another small note. I was able to install most of the applications using the setup.exe programs in the individual dirs (like Audio/EaxCon), but a few eluded me including the Diagnose app.

I used this driver CD: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=5 … menustate=43,36.

Reply 64 of 74, by matcarfer

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jerry507 wrote on 2020-03-08, 02:10:
This thread helped lead to my eventual success struggling against these Dell Audigy 2 ZS cards, but I had to make a small modifi […]
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This thread helped lead to my eventual success struggling against these Dell Audigy 2 ZS cards, but I had to make a small modification to the procedure matcarfer gave above. When I performed his second step (forcing the installation of the drivers through Device Manager) I had two choices from the .inf files extracted from VXD.cab: "Emu10kx.inf" and "SB16.inf". Initially I tried "Emu10kx.inf" and this did get sound working, but no EAX. Also when I tried to run CTZAPXX from step 4 it ONLY allowed me to select the WDM drivers.

My solution was installing the "SB16.inf" drivers, which are SB16 emulation drivers. When I did that and proceeded to step 4 I was given the VXD option. After a bit of waiting and a restart my Audigy 2 ZS worked including EAX.

Another small note. I was able to install most of the applications using the setup.exe programs in the individual dirs (like Audio/EaxCon), but a few eluded me including the Diagnose app.

I used this driver CD: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=5 … menustate=43,36.

Ok great for sharing! Will re-install my machine next days and will try to cover your method. Will post a detailed guide again.

Reply 65 of 74, by alifetolive123

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matcarfer wrote on 2020-03-31, 02:21:
jerry507 wrote on 2020-03-08, 02:10:
This thread helped lead to my eventual success struggling against these Dell Audigy 2 ZS cards, but I had to make a small modifi […]
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This thread helped lead to my eventual success struggling against these Dell Audigy 2 ZS cards, but I had to make a small modification to the procedure matcarfer gave above. When I performed his second step (forcing the installation of the drivers through Device Manager) I had two choices from the .inf files extracted from VXD.cab: "Emu10kx.inf" and "SB16.inf". Initially I tried "Emu10kx.inf" and this did get sound working, but no EAX. Also when I tried to run CTZAPXX from step 4 it ONLY allowed me to select the WDM drivers.

My solution was installing the "SB16.inf" drivers, which are SB16 emulation drivers. When I did that and proceeded to step 4 I was given the VXD option. After a bit of waiting and a restart my Audigy 2 ZS worked including EAX.

Another small note. I was able to install most of the applications using the setup.exe programs in the individual dirs (like Audio/EaxCon), but a few eluded me including the Diagnose app.

I used this driver CD: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=5 … menustate=43,36.

Ok great for sharing! Will re-install my machine next days and will try to cover your method. Will post a detailed guide again.

Can you post a detailed guide? Please show me one by one step to install SB Audigy 2ZS official driver for Dell Audigy 2ZS Card on XP
Sorry for my english and Thank you you guys for this useful thread.

Reply 66 of 74, by schmatzler

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jerry507 wrote on 2020-03-08, 02:10:

Also when I tried to run CTZAPXX from step 4 it ONLY allowed me to select the WDM drivers.

The cab file in the VXD folder needs to be extracted into that same folder for the option to show up.

I always install my Audigy 2 that way, so I don't have to run the bloated setup from the CD that always installs some registration tool I don't want.

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Reply 67 of 74, by filipetolhuizen

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This card sometimes tends to lose hardware ID. To avoid further problems, attach a heatsink to its main chip, as it also tends to overheat in DirectSound 3D.

Reply 68 of 74, by schmatzler

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filipetolhuizen wrote on 2020-05-04, 00:06:

To avoid further problems, attach a heatsink to its main chip, as it also tends to overheat in DirectSound 3D.

Are you sure it's not just your setup? I have no overheating problems with my Audigy 2 ZS.

"Windows 98's natural state is locked up"

Reply 69 of 74, by Studiostriver

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Damn, i got the same problem. Today my Audigy ZS 2 Platinum Pro came with dock. Installation CD do not see my soundcard. 🙁 My model is SB0360. This is devastating. Time to keep re reeading complete post, and if i could not make it work, i`ll ask for further help to make it work. What a bummer. 🙁

Reply 70 of 74, by KT7AGuy

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Studiostriver wrote on 2024-11-05, 01:17:

Damn, i got the same problem. Today my Audigy ZS 2 Platinum Pro came with dock. Installation CD do not see my soundcard. 🙁 My model is SB0360. This is devastating. Time to keep re reeading complete post, and if i could not make it work, i`ll ask for further help to make it work. What a bummer. 🙁

Holy necropost!

Anyway, this is what you want:
https://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

Scoll down a bit and get "Audigy Support Pack 8.1".

Reply 72 of 74, by Studiostriver

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KT7AGuy wrote on 2024-11-05, 13:06:
Holy necropost! […]
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Studiostriver wrote on 2024-11-05, 01:17:

Damn, i got the same problem. Today my Audigy ZS 2 Platinum Pro came with dock. Installation CD do not see my soundcard. 🙁 My model is SB0360. This is devastating. Time to keep re reeading complete post, and if i could not make it work, i`ll ask for further help to make it work. What a bummer. 🙁

Holy necropost!

Anyway, this is what you want:
https://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

Scoll down a bit and get "Audigy Support Pack 8.1".

Hi. I tried Audigy Support Pack 8.1, but it wont install at all, constantly getting the various error messaged whatever i do. So far i`ve manged to install from original CD for XP manually almost all except VXT drivers and 1394 for firewire dock (Windows basically see PCI card and 1394 card are new on the system), and without it i have no use of installed programs, it recognize the card and it even find automatically and install WDM driver.
It dont allow me in manual installation option to install VXT at all, when i click install only WDM is available and VXT and NT are dimmed. That very weird thing cause i installed those drivers for SB Live! and it worked well, along with all effects etc.
I can install additional apps as High EQ, EAX etc by adding kernell missing error, ive found it on cd on launch folder, on lots of apps send me this error , so copied it in each individual app folder and it let me install later apps.
Sound is there on WDM, but its not fun to use this card without EAX and soundfonts, thats the reason we all want it i guess. 😀

So far i will try to delete all drivers and software, remove card and try fresh install watching vogons instructions.
Weirdly even on EMU`s official updates it wont install drivers, do not see them as well.

My current system is dual boot XP/98. Testing on XP so far.
CPU Tualatin S 1.4
Motherboard DFI CA64-TC
SDRAM 768MB
GPU Asus ATI 9250 GE 256MB (planning to update with HIS 9600 XT after i manage to make Audigy 2 ZS work, if i make it work)
PCI USB2 NEC chip

I will try know the same approach with installing various apps like i did with SB Live from Vogons website to see if maybe that will allow me to install VXT drivers.

Reply 73 of 74, by marxveix

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Studiostriver wrote on 2024-11-05, 23:09:
Hi. I tried Audigy Support Pack 8.1, but it wont install at all, constantly getting the various error messaged whatever i do. So […]
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KT7AGuy wrote on 2024-11-05, 13:06:
Holy necropost! […]
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Studiostriver wrote on 2024-11-05, 01:17:

Damn, i got the same problem. Today my Audigy ZS 2 Platinum Pro came with dock. Installation CD do not see my soundcard. 🙁 My model is SB0360. This is devastating. Time to keep re reeading complete post, and if i could not make it work, i`ll ask for further help to make it work. What a bummer. 🙁

Holy necropost!

Anyway, this is what you want:
https://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

Scoll down a bit and get "Audigy Support Pack 8.1".

Hi. I tried Audigy Support Pack 8.1, but it wont install at all, constantly getting the various error messaged whatever i do. So far i`ve manged to install from original CD for XP manually almost all except VXT drivers and 1394 for firewire dock (Windows basically see PCI card and 1394 card are new on the system), and without it i have no use of installed programs, it recognize the card and it even find automatically and install WDM driver.
It dont allow me in manual installation option to install VXT at all, when i click install only WDM is available and VXT and NT are dimmed. That very weird thing cause i installed those drivers for SB Live! and it worked well, along with all effects etc.
I can install additional apps as High EQ, EAX etc by adding kernell missing error, ive found it on cd on launch folder, on lots of apps send me this error , so copied it in each individual app folder and it let me install later apps.
Sound is there on WDM, but its not fun to use this card without EAX and soundfonts, thats the reason we all want it i guess. 😀

So far i will try to delete all drivers and software, remove card and try fresh install watching vogons instructions.
Weirdly even on EMU`s official updates it wont install drivers, do not see them as well.

My current system is dual boot XP/98. Testing on XP so far.
CPU Tualatin S 1.4
Motherboard DFI CA64-TC
SDRAM 768MB
GPU Asus ATI 9250 GE 256MB (planning to update with HIS 9600 XT after i manage to make Audigy 2 ZS work, if i make it work)
PCI USB2 NEC chip

I will try know the same approach with installing various apps like i did with SB Live from Vogons website to see if maybe that will allow me to install VXT drivers.

VXD drivers are only for Win9x, not even for WinMe, with WinMe and newer, you need to use WDM drivers.
Have you used these Audigy2 drivers also? https://www.philscomputerlab.com/sound-blaster-live.html

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Reply 74 of 74, by Studiostriver

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marxveix wrote on 2024-11-06, 11:03:
Studiostriver wrote on 2024-11-05, 23:09:
Hi. I tried Audigy Support Pack 8.1, but it wont install at all, constantly getting the various error messaged whatever i do. So […]
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KT7AGuy wrote on 2024-11-05, 13:06:
Holy necropost! […]
Show full quote

Holy necropost!

Anyway, this is what you want:
https://danielkawakami.blogspot.com/

Scoll down a bit and get "Audigy Support Pack 8.1".

Hi. I tried Audigy Support Pack 8.1, but it wont install at all, constantly getting the various error messaged whatever i do. So far i`ve manged to install from original CD for XP manually almost all except VXT drivers and 1394 for firewire dock (Windows basically see PCI card and 1394 card are new on the system), and without it i have no use of installed programs, it recognize the card and it even find automatically and install WDM driver.
It dont allow me in manual installation option to install VXT at all, when i click install only WDM is available and VXT and NT are dimmed. That very weird thing cause i installed those drivers for SB Live! and it worked well, along with all effects etc.
I can install additional apps as High EQ, EAX etc by adding kernell missing error, ive found it on cd on launch folder, on lots of apps send me this error , so copied it in each individual app folder and it let me install later apps.
Sound is there on WDM, but its not fun to use this card without EAX and soundfonts, thats the reason we all want it i guess. 😀

So far i will try to delete all drivers and software, remove card and try fresh install watching vogons instructions.
Weirdly even on EMU`s official updates it wont install drivers, do not see them as well.

My current system is dual boot XP/98. Testing on XP so far.
CPU Tualatin S 1.4
Motherboard DFI CA64-TC
SDRAM 768MB
GPU Asus ATI 9250 GE 256MB (planning to update with HIS 9600 XT after i manage to make Audigy 2 ZS work, if i make it work)
PCI USB2 NEC chip

I will try know the same approach with installing various apps like i did with SB Live from Vogons website to see if maybe that will allow me to install VXT drivers.

VXD drivers are only for Win9x, not even for WinMe, with WinMe and newer, you need to use WDM drivers.
Have you used these Audigy2 drivers also? https://www.philscomputerlab.com/sound-blaster-live.html

I`ve managed to make it all work deleting everything i installed previously, and cleaning registery files. Then i used on Vogons website way of installing orders. Original Installation CD wont start saying it cant detect card, but manually it worked well after i updated WDM drivers on unnofficial update (manually as well, it also wont start showing me error messages). After that it sees all my additional apps, and i can start them all perfectly fine. Its just weird i could not start a single program without messages it cant see my card. Even official update stuff from EMU could not work till i extracted it with winrar and found individual apps and installments where i managed to install stuff i needed such as taskbar icon option etc.
XP is now working well, but its very weird i had to do it all manually and it could not start EAX and similar additional stuff without updating WDM drivers.

The only problem that is left is that it cant see my 1394 drivers for Audigy 2 ZS, i tried to install provided drivers on CD ISO, but they are only for 98 system, not for XP, simply wont work.

I`m left to see how i can solve that problem, so i can try dock.

Also i need to see how to make card work in 98 SE, i`ve found tutorial guide from Joseph_Joestar, so i`ll try that , cause i want for DOS games to work too.
Guide: Installing Windows 9x and DOS drivers on Audigy cards (version 3.1)