ElectroSoldier wrote on 2025-05-03, 13:01:

Yeah two points I can understand there but not sure about the vram. […]
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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-05-03, 06:54:

I refuse to use the garbage tier 60 gpus from Nvidia, both the 3060 and 4060 are over priced for the pittance of vram they have.

The B580 was cheaper than either of them and has more vram and happily beats either for non DLSS performance.

Intel actually makes good GPUs, nvidia make great features but is stuck in 8gb vram land for its budget cards.

Yeah two points I can understand there but not sure about the vram.

hornet1990 wrote on 2025-05-03, 08:19:

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2025-05-03, 01:49:

There seems to be a big push for team blue video cards right now, they are very much the underdog in vouge now but Im not sure why.

Possibly because everyone is fed up of the duopoly, or arguably even the monopoly of the current AIB gpu market?

That one thing is anoying me more than anything else, the market is stagnant and the top end of the market is a one horse race which is boring to say the least.
The retro crowd know how interesting a seller rich market can be.
AMD seems to be aiming mostly at the mid range with some rather compelling if confusing cards but the whole market needs a shake up but by Intel?!?

Trashbytes wrote on 2025-05-03, 10:24:

Yes yes lets give the slowest weakest of the 3060s 12gb of Vram . .cause bigger must mean better right ... nope wrong, its nothi […]
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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-03, 10:09:

The 3060 has 12 gigs of vram. It's the 3060ti that's has to stupid 8 gigs of vram.

Yes yes lets give the slowest weakest of the 3060s 12gb of Vram . .cause bigger must mean better right ... nope wrong, its nothing more than a overclocked 3050. Nvidia does this because gullible people buy these cards thinking bigger is better but the 8Gb models runs circles around the 12Gb versions due to the bigger memory bus, faster Vram and better core clocks. (The 3060 12Gb doesn't even have enough GPU power to utilize the full 12Gb it has, that how anemic it is)

Have seen Nvidia do this before and they didn't fool me then and they wont now, all their recent 60 series cards are garbage...especially the 5060 which has no right to even exist.

And people keep buying this garbage from nVidia, its why I switched to Intel at least I know they are trying to fuck me and are nice enough to let me know first.

The last good 60 series from them was the 2060 Super which was good for what it was meant to be, was quite the little power house that one.

I see this carries on from earlier.
Dislike nvidia... fair enough, they have done more than enough to earn that kind of attitude towards them.

I have to confess I have been wanting to try out one from team blue for a while now, there are a few reviews with favourable results but every time I keep getting draw to the green flag...
It used to be red but with the change of name it lost its luster for me and now I just seem to be stuck in comfortable.

Im not a gamer... I play games, or a game that is modern but I want video render capability, and I know team green deliver.
You seem to have more experience with them than I do so have a different idea.

Actually I fully agree, for video rendering its no contest, nVidia has this tied up no question, Intel and AMD are both playing catchup here, same for GPU features that are used for more than just gamers nVidia has this tied up also.

its their scummy marketing segmentation practises and refusal to read the room in regards to vram that is seriously annoying, but since we are not their main market they can just throw us the dregs and shitty segmentation and there isnt a lot we can do about it other than move to AMD or Intel.

So at the end of the day the consumer space is not Nvidias main market anymore that's been taken by AI and Server space customers, us consumers are an after though to nvidia they dont need us and I fully expect them to slowly wind down their consumer GPU market as their AI market canibilises it.

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-03, 13:01:

AMD is pulling the same stunt with the 8 gig cards. 12 gigs should be the starting point not 8

I cant wait for 8gb standard to just die already, more and more software now want bigger Vram, its not just games wanting this but professional grade software too.

I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powered beast, but it was cheap & I happened to be in the part of town where the seller was, so I decided to pick it up anyway.

Naturally, the first benchmark I ran was the downright punishing 3DMark... 2001. Funnily enough, it outscored my RX 7900 XTX by nearly 2000 points (the Radeon gets 103,670).

Perhaps one day I'll properly bottleneck the crap out of this card by pairing it with Windows XP and Windows XP compatible hardware--it is the fastest Windows XP-compatible GPU one can get, after all. For now though, I think I'll just use it as a beautiful decorative piece for the office.

Standard Def Steve wrote on 2025-05-13, 04:19:

I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powe […]
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I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powered beast, but it was cheap & I happened to be in the part of town where the seller was, so I decided to pick it up anyway.

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Naturally, the first benchmark I ran was the downright punishing 3DMark... 2001. Funnily enough, it outscored my RX 7900 XTX by nearly 2000 points (the Radeon gets 103,670).

The attachment Screenshot 2025-05-11 220850.PNG is no longer available

Perhaps one day I'll properly bottleneck the crap out of this card by pairing it with Windows XP and Windows XP compatible hardware--it is the fastest Windows XP-compatible GPU one can get, after all. For now though, I think I'll just use it as a beautiful decorative piece for the office.

If I only bought stuff, I actually needed :lol That'd be an empty shelf then.

But that's impressive stuff! I really struggle to keep my 980Ti above the 100,000 mark on my i7-9700K @ 8x5 GHz. But 3DM2K1 is pretty CPU-bound as I recall, so I wonder if it's the GPU or CPU, that pulls off most of those points 😉

H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-05-13, 05:36:

Standard Def Steve wrote on 2025-05-13, 04:19:

I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powe […]
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I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powered beast, but it was cheap & I happened to be in the part of town where the seller was, so I decided to pick it up anyway.

The attachment IMG_0968.jpg is no longer available

Naturally, the first benchmark I ran was the downright punishing 3DMark... 2001. Funnily enough, it outscored my RX 7900 XTX by nearly 2000 points (the Radeon gets 103,670).

The attachment Screenshot 2025-05-11 220850.PNG is no longer available

Perhaps one day I'll properly bottleneck the crap out of this card by pairing it with Windows XP and Windows XP compatible hardware--it is the fastest Windows XP-compatible GPU one can get, after all. For now though, I think I'll just use it as a beautiful decorative piece for the office.

If I only bought stuff, I actually needed :lol That'd be an empty shelf then.

But that's impressive stuff! I really struggle to keep my 980Ti above the 100,000 mark on my i7-9700K @ 8x5 GHz. But 3DM2K1 is pretty CPU-bound as I recall, so I wonder if it's the GPU or CPU, that pulls off most of those points 😉

Incredibly CPU bound, in a not-much-you-can-do-about-it kind of way. Limited to a single thread? Check!
Unbelievably sensitive to core interconnect and memory latency? Check, check!
SIMD support? Sure! How about MMX, and perhaps even SSE1 on a good day.
Does it get slower with each new version of Windows? You betcha!

In a way, it's a bit like the old DOS benchmarks. Once you hit a certain level of CPU performance (or perhaps CPU architecture), it just stops scaling linearly.