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First post, by ModernMan

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Loading from DOS or windows brings up a black and white page of
“Select a screen format by selecting its letter”
So once selected that in DOS it returns its self back to the command prompt WTF!
But In windows it takes you to the actuall arts package its self!
And with a drop down menu of one of them being "pitcher" and one of those
options being save/ save as.
unfortunitly non of the file type options means anything to me!
options of like ".LBM, old and PCX

Reply 1 of 15, by leileilol

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ModernMan wrote on 2026-07-30, 21:49:

unfortunitly non of the file type options means anything to me!
options of like ".LBM, old and PCX

well yeah, did you expect deluxe paint to be paint shop pro? It's an amiga tool from before JPEG and PNG, brought over to work with those indexed color palette formats. And considering the ubiquity of DP's fonts, art, extremely recognizable flood gradients, etc. among commercial games in the west then, it had to be good for something...

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Reply 2 of 15, by Grzyb

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From what I recall, Deluxe Paint was the most popular graphics program for Amiga, but not very popular on the PC.
For the PC, Zsoft Paintbrush seemed the #1, and later on there was Neopaint.

And yes - considering that great many games originated on Amiga, it was normal to see stuff from DP even in games for other platforms.

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Reply 3 of 15, by ModernMan

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In other words then it is not really IBM compatible and should not of gone on to DOS
If I cant convert the file types in question to PNG and JPEG then I guess i should look at something ells

Grzyb wrote on 2026-07-30, 22:27:

For the PC, Zsoft Paintbrush seemed the #1, and later on there was Neopaint.

Thanks! I'll look those 2 up, but with so many corrupt programs out there on the archives sites and other stuff, I would not hold your breath! I mean the Du lux paint that I got is not really real. It was all zip filed together, meaning that you could not write disk one to disk one est. you just had to copy paste to HDD and not even a proper installer came with it

Reply 4 of 15, by ModernMan

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furhtmore; as i said in the OP, i can only open the program in windows and not DOS so no good at all really! (unless someone knows how to do it that is) But i guess that they are just currupt feebee programs that will never work anyway

Reply 5 of 15, by Jo22

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In video games, DP was used for animation (palette cycling), pixel art (backgrounds etc) and creating character sprites.

https://segaretro.org/Deluxe_Paint

The latest versions always were available on Amiga (first).
Maybe that's why Amiga had been prioritized.

Though the ST version wasn't bad, either, it seems.
https://stcarchiv.de/st-magazin/1991/01/deluxe-paint

While the final DOS version supported SVGA and huge screen resolutions.
DOS platform also had the Deluxe Paint Animation sister product, which was limitedcto VGA mode 13h (320x200 256c).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluxe_Paint#Versions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluxe_Paint_Animation

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Reply 6 of 15, by HwAoRrDk

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ModernMan wrote on 2026-07-31, 09:31:

If I cant convert the file types in question to PNG and JPEG then I guess i should look at something ells

Were you seriously expecting a piece of software released in the late 1980s to support JPEG and PNG? Even Deluxe Paint II Enhanced 2.0 pre-dates PNG by several years, because it wasn't invented until late 1990s, and JPEG support was rare in the early '90s.

ModernMan wrote on 2026-07-31, 09:31:

you just had to copy paste to HDD and not even a proper installer came with it

A lot of DOS programs didn't have installers, because the assumption was that you'd just run it from the (single) floppy disk it came on. Because back then not every system actually had an HDD. So, yes, the "install process" was just to copy the files manually.

ModernMan wrote on 2026-07-31, 15:06:

furhtmore; as i said in the OP, i can only open the program in windows and not DOS so no good at all really!

The fact it runs under Windows but not DOS makes me think it's some kind of memory manager issue. But then I don't recall DPaint requiring extended/expanded memory...

OP, if you want an old paint program that runs under Windows 3.x/9x that handles common "modern" file formats like JPEG and PNG, then try Paint Shop Pro. IIRC, the 4.x version had PNG support.

Reply 7 of 15, by ModernMan

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ModernMan wrote on 2026-07-31, 15:06:

OP, if you want an old paint program that runs under Windows 3.x/9x that handles common "modern" file formats like JPEG and PNG, then try Paint Shop Pro. IIRC, the 4.x version had PNG support.

Do you think "Paint Shop Pro. IIRC" will run on DOS 6.22? and if so do you know where to get a reliable copy from please?

Reply 8 of 15, by Grzyb

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ModernMan wrote on 2026-08-08, 00:15:

Do you think "Paint Shop Pro. IIRC" will run on DOS 6.22?

No, Paint Shop Pro is for Windows.

For pure DOS, the best you can find is NeoPaint - https://www.sac.sk/download/graph/npt32d.zip
Supports PCX, TIFF, BMP, GIF formats.

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Reply 9 of 15, by Peter Swinkels

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What were you hoping to use Deluxe Paint for to begin with anyway?

EDIT:
You wanted to convert stuff to jpg/png? There are more modern tools that can do that. I don't understand why you'd think some ancient program from the 80's could do that.

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Reply 10 of 15, by ModernMan

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Grzyb wrote on 2026-08-08, 14:52:
No, Paint Shop Pro is for Windows. […]
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ModernMan wrote on 2026-08-08, 00:15:

Do you think "Paint Shop Pro. IIRC" will run on DOS 6.22?

No, Paint Shop Pro is for Windows.

For pure DOS, the best you can find is NeoPaint - https://www.sac.sk/download/graph/npt32d.zip
Supports PCX, TIFF, BMP, GIF formats.

I downloaded the link thanks!
Unzipped the folder, and hit the INSTALL icon and managed to install it on to my windows machine that we are talking on right now. I found the short cut to open it and opened the program had a quick go at it

Opened a file (seams to only support .BMP and not .JPG)
The it asked me something about 1.changing the video mode or 2.convert the piture, and conver the piture to magic square
The first one came up all funny but when saving it, it was ok
Then the second one came up dotted and saved as dotted
So I then tried the fist one again putting some text on to it, though the text size will only go upto 21 size

But that is all in windows and I want to run it in DOS right? The unzipped folder contains
NP1.CPM to NP7.CPM (total 7 files) and an INSTALL file and a readme file (that is no good!)
So I am confused how I go ahead getting them on floppy disk as they are not labeled disk 1-7 or 1-8

I can not burn the files to CD because like before when i wanted to install "microsoft book shelf 87" from CDROM to DOS. everytime I inputted the E:\ or the F:\ (which are my CDROM drives) I was told "invalid drive specification"

***Edit** dont think it will be much use with out .JPG as this forum dose not support the file that it supports

Last edited by ModernMan on 2026-08-08, 22:53. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 11 of 15, by megatron-uk

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Why would you even think a paint package for DOS, released before JPEG and PNG even became ISO standard would even be able to handle them?

And what would you even do with said files on DOS anyway?

Try decoding a JPEG on a DOS era machine and you would see how poorly suited they are.

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Reply 12 of 15, by zyga64

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For image conversion and processing (and displaying), you can use commandline Image alchemy for DOS http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Image_Alchemy
Back in the late 90s I used it on my 286 computer to convert various images 😀 so they could be displayed on my monochrome VGA monitor (256k PVGA1A).


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Reply 13 of 15, by ModernMan

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zyga64 wrote on 2026-08-09, 17:17:

For image conversion and processing (and displaying), you can use commandline Image alchemy for DOS http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Image_Alchemy
Back in the late 90s I used it on my 286 computer to convert various images 😀 so they could be displayed on my monochrome VGA monitor (256k PVGA1A).

That link you provided dose not seam to work most of the time, but the one time it did work, the bottom later ones the file size is to big for a floppy disk so obviusly they are no good and wont work! I then tried the first one, unzipped it and copied it to floppy, booted dos. and A:\ALCHEMY.EXE Just brings you up it title. dose not install! dose not open! dose nothing more then tell you what version it is so no good! infact they are all no good full stop!

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Reply 14 of 15, by Jo22

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Hi, I remember PV.. It can convert image files and display JPEG, too.
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Reply 16 of 15, by ntalaec

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zyga64 wrote on 2026-08-09, 17:17:

For image conversion and processing (and displaying), you can use commandline Image alchemy for DOS http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Image_Alchemy
Back in the late 90s I used it on my 286 computer to convert various images 😀 so they could be displayed on my monochrome VGA monitor (256k PVGA1A).

DosView can convert less formats but it's freeware and has support for newer formats:
DosView
https://github.com/SuperIlu/DosView