Why not both ? 🤣

anyway, I'd prefer the Epox since it has AGP and ISA slots.

I'm just curious which one is more useful to people. 😀

For me, dual s370 but with AGP, I’ve got two of those, one running dual 1GHz PIIIs and one modded to take dual 1.13GHz Tualatins.

The main reason is cooling, one of these systems is watercooled, using off the shelf water blocks, which is nigh on impossible with Slot 1.

If I was going to bother with Dual Slot 1, I’d rather go Dual Slot 2 for the rarity and oddity factor.

I’m happy with my single Slot 1/Asus P3C-E/RAMBUS/Powerleap Tualatin system for my Slot 1 tinkerings!

The lack of AGP on the Asus, suggests the Epox is more useful, as there are a lot of people who use this stuff for gaming. Though the lack of 64-bit PCI/PCIX on the Epox does limit SCSI expansion in say a server. I like old server stuff but i would say i'm in a minority compared to those into gaming. Has the Epox got a BX or GX chipset?

Though obviously dual and gaming usefulness, is limited based on the OS choice.

Isn't the dual 370 more overclockable?
Good points. No AGP and no ISA on the 370 board.

64bit PCI is cool as heck

ISA is hardly relevant with dual CPU builds: you want ISA for DOS, and DOS doesn't do SMP. SMP-aware OSs like WinNT, 2k, XP (and various Unixen and more exotic options) are all perfectly happy with PCI (sound) cards.

AGP is another matter though. The issue here isn't So370 vs Slot1, but a workstation board like the KP6-BS vs a server board like the CUR-DLS. There are perfectly good dual So370 workstation boards out there with AGP (Asus' CUV4X-D for example, or if you want to go seriously high-end the Tyan S2567)

maxtherabbit wrote on 2021-06-05, 19:22:

64bit PCI is cool as heck

Especially when we find lots of PCI cards run at 66 just fine!
I ran a few dual P3T's for a decade. One had the ISA occupied with a sound card and the adjacent shared slot with a sata controller with no header, all slots filled, a P3TDLE I think - so there ya go, ISA functional and 66 MHz PCI. It was good.

The clock generator on the Asus board goes to 180mhz.
You can have extra fun pushing it around.

There are better options out there, if you are looking to spend on dual p3 hardware.

Are there decent PCI video cards available for gaming?

Miphee wrote on 2021-06-05, 20:42:

Are there decent PCI video cards available for gaming?

Hardly. The one that springs to mind is the Matrox Parhelia, but the 64b PCI version was even slower than the AGP one. That CUR-DLS simply isn't a gaming board.

Fair enough.

Voodoo 5 5500 PCI is a good option for period correct gaming, but these days they are $$$

maxtherabbit wrote on 2021-06-05, 19:22:

64bit PCI is cool as heck

yep and there are PCI VGAs who also will run 66Mhz.
So missing AGP isn’t that bad.

Are there 64bit PCI VGA adapters?
Isn't the Radeon 7500 PCI much faster than the V5 5500 PCI?
The Radeon is also cheap and readily available.

Miphee wrote on 2021-06-06, 10:15:

Are there 64bit PCI VGA adapters?
Isn't the Radeon 7500 PCI much faster than the V5 5500 PCI?
The Radeon is also cheap and readily available.

My Matrox Parhelia is a PCI-X interface, should operate at PCI 66 just fine.

paradigital wrote on 2021-06-06, 10:26:

My Matrox Parhelia is a PCI-X interface, should operate at PCI 66 just fine.

Looking good! Any PCI-X VGA alternatives?

I have honestly only ever seen the Parhelia (and some lower end Matrox stuff) as a consumer/prosumer level video cards on PCI-X.

You see stuff like the HP Visualize and the IBM equivalents all over the shop, but I seem to recall they don’t work in PCs due to having BIOSes (and lack of drivers I guess) designed for big iron RISC computing.

PCI-X to PCIe x4 or PCI-X to AGP x? adapters.

I think user sdz has designed those.