noshutdown wrote on 2024-11-29, 02:04:

the video card surely makes some difference here, and i recommend using driver 30.82 for socket7 rigs with win2k/xp.

I just tried it and my score went down to 312. This driver is probably optimised for the GeForce 2 series - not so much for the TNT2.

GemCookie wrote on 2024-11-29, 19:06:

noshutdown wrote on 2024-11-29, 02:04:

the video card surely makes some difference here, and i recommend using driver 30.82 for socket7 rigs with win2k/xp.

I just tried it and my score went down to 312. This driver is probably optimised for the GeForce 2 series - not so much for the TNT2.

I think getting more than 1/3 the score of a Geforce 2 Ultra with a TNT2 M64 on a similar CPU is very respectable. The GF2 Ultra is easily 5-6 times as fast as a TNT2 M64.

That said... coupling a system like that with Windows XP is probably torture. Have you tried running the same benchmark in 98SE?

(Also, I know you just did this to see what would happen... I'm just curious if the OS makes any difference in the score. 😀 )

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-11-29, 19:34:

I think getting more than 1/3 the score of a Geforce 2 Ultra with a TNT2 M64 on a similar CPU is very respectable. The GF2 Ultra is easily 5-6 times as fast as a TNT2 M64.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

That said... coupling a system like that with Windows XP is probably torture.

Funnily enough, it feels just right. I don't wait for the system and it doesn't wait for me.

Have you tried running the same benchmark in 98SE?

(Also, I know you just did this to see what would happen... I'm just curious if the OS makes any difference in the score. :) )

While I don't have 98 installed on here, I did try the benchmark on Windows 2000, which runs significantly faster. With Detonator 7.97 - the driver I used in my first post - I got a score of 312. I noticed that the program only ran 17 tests instead of 21 the first time around.

GemCookie wrote on 2024-11-29, 19:06:

I just tried it and my score went down to 312. This driver is probably optimised for the GeForce 2 series - not so much for the TNT2.

maybe you are right and i just remembered it wrong in so many years. which version were you using then? maybe you can try 8.05, the last one before 1x.xx series.
i hate 1x.xx series because they can't disable vsync, and 2x.xx are mostly the same thing as 30.82, just a bit less mature(30.82 being the last in the serie actually).

VooDooMan wrote on 2021-10-01, 06:41:

Here's an update on WinXP […]
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Here's an update on WinXP

CPU: PIII-S (sl6by) @ 1750MHz (166,6 MHz FSB, AGP @ 66.7 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR @ 310MHz (2,5-2-2-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE! 😉

CPU: PIII-S (SL6BY) @ 1900MHz (181 MHz FSB, AGP @ 72.4 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR(GoodRam) @ 362MHz (2,5-2-3-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver - FAST WRITES off!
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

SAME SPECS BUT DIFFERENT SYSTEM (Win98SE) + FAST WRITES IS ON! (1GB GOODRAM)

default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

15678 points seems to be the current records for this GPU with a Tualatin CPU 😉

VooDooMan wrote on 2025-01-16, 14:32:

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VooDooMan wrote on 2021-10-01, 06:41:

Here's an update on WinXP […]
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Here's an update on WinXP

CPU: PIII-S (sl6by) @ 1750MHz (166,6 MHz FSB, AGP @ 66.7 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR @ 310MHz (2,5-2-2-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE! 😉

CPU: PIII-S (SL6BY) @ 1900MHz (181 MHz FSB, AGP @ 72.4 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR(GoodRam) @ 362MHz (2,5-2-3-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver - FAST WRITES off!
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

SAME SPECS BUT DIFFERENT SYSTEM (Win98SE) + FAST WRITES IS ON! (1GB GOODRAM)

default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

15678 points seems to be the current records for this GPU with a Tualatin CPU 😉

Nice tuning!

I bought a N100 mini PC, UHD730 DEV_46D1 and tried 3dMark2001 for fun. With a fresh 21H2, latest driver 32.0.101.6460, 3dmark2001 startup hang patch, I got the following error.

swapBuffer:Present D3DERR_DRIVERINTERNALERROR

Basically you get about 5-10 seconds into the car chase bench then it errors out. Same with the dragon bench if the car is disabled. I had to go back to 32.0101.6078 to find a version that didn't crash. 6130,6299,6314,6319,6325,6332,6449,6458,6460 all had the same problem with 3dmark2001.

The N100 was comparable to a 7500T with CPUz bench, with the N100 using 12W and the 7500T using 17W under max load. 3dmark2001 performance was worse with the N100.

N100 UHD730

13DMark Score	25170
2Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail	477.0 fps
3Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail	58.7 fps
4Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail	472.1 fps
5Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail	193.8 fps
6Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail	450.7 fps
7Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail	102.6 fps
8Game 4 - Nature	203.4 fps
9Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)	2750.0 MTexels/s
10Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)	9666.4 MTexels/s
11High Polygon Count (1 Light)	245.4 MTriangles/s
12High Polygon Count (8 Lights)	116.6 MTriangles/s
13Environment Bump Mapping	914.1 fps
14DOT3 Bump Mapping	511.0 fps
15Vertex Shader	508.1 fps
16Pixel Shader	554.9 fps
17Advanced Pixel Shader	500.4 fps
18Point Sprites	140.3 MSprites/s

7500T UHD630

13DMark Score	33651
2Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail	479.1 fps
3Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail	71.3 fps
4Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail	685.5 fps
5Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail	275.6 fps
6Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail	479.7 fps
7Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail	148.5 fps
8Game 4 - Nature	365.0 fps
9Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)	5880.6 MTexels/s
10Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)	11234.5 MTexels/s
11High Polygon Count (1 Light)	454.8 MTriangles/s
12High Polygon Count (8 Lights)	151.7 MTriangles/s
13Environment Bump Mapping	1173.0 fps
14DOT3 Bump Mapping	807.7 fps
15Vertex Shader	534.6 fps
16Pixel Shader	737.8 fps
17Advanced Pixel Shader	768.5 fps
18Point Sprites	183.5 MSprites/s

Many years since my last result, hardware is trash picked.

With this setup I got 17574 3D marks at default resolution:

• ATI Radeon X300 Pro 128MB DDR @ 525MHz/309MHz
• Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3400MHz 8x425MHz
• Asus P5N-E SLI
• 1024MB DC DDR2 @ 283MHz 4-3-3-1T
• Windows XP Pro SP3

all those screenshots lost 😒

3DM 2001
P4 2.8GHz, 1GB RDRAM and GF FX 5900XT - 11669 pts. ;(

Win98 record :

70826 3D marks
Ryzen 3500X, GTX 650 Ti, Win2k