noshutdown wrote on 2024-11-29, 02:04:

the video card surely makes some difference here, and i recommend using driver 30.82 for socket7 rigs with win2k/xp.

I just tried it and my score went down to 312. This driver is probably optimised for the GeForce 2 series - not so much for the TNT2.

GemCookie wrote on 2024-11-29, 19:06:

noshutdown wrote on 2024-11-29, 02:04:

the video card surely makes some difference here, and i recommend using driver 30.82 for socket7 rigs with win2k/xp.

I just tried it and my score went down to 312. This driver is probably optimised for the GeForce 2 series - not so much for the TNT2.

I think getting more than 1/3 the score of a Geforce 2 Ultra with a TNT2 M64 on a similar CPU is very respectable. The GF2 Ultra is easily 5-6 times as fast as a TNT2 M64.

That said... coupling a system like that with Windows XP is probably torture. Have you tried running the same benchmark in 98SE?

(Also, I know you just did this to see what would happen... I'm just curious if the OS makes any difference in the score. 😀 )

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-11-29, 19:34:

I think getting more than 1/3 the score of a Geforce 2 Ultra with a TNT2 M64 on a similar CPU is very respectable. The GF2 Ultra is easily 5-6 times as fast as a TNT2 M64.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

That said... coupling a system like that with Windows XP is probably torture.

Funnily enough, it feels just right. I don't wait for the system and it doesn't wait for me.

Have you tried running the same benchmark in 98SE?

(Also, I know you just did this to see what would happen... I'm just curious if the OS makes any difference in the score. :) )

While I don't have 98 installed on here, I did try the benchmark on Windows 2000, which runs significantly faster. With Detonator 7.97 - the driver I used in my first post - I got a score of 312. I noticed that the program only ran 17 tests instead of 21 the first time around.

GemCookie wrote on 2024-11-29, 19:06:

I just tried it and my score went down to 312. This driver is probably optimised for the GeForce 2 series - not so much for the TNT2.

maybe you are right and i just remembered it wrong in so many years. which version were you using then? maybe you can try 8.05, the last one before 1x.xx series.
i hate 1x.xx series because they can't disable vsync, and 2x.xx are mostly the same thing as 30.82, just a bit less mature(30.82 being the last in the serie actually).

VooDooMan wrote on 2021-10-01, 06:41:

Here's an update on WinXP […]
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Here's an update on WinXP

CPU: PIII-S (sl6by) @ 1750MHz (166,6 MHz FSB, AGP @ 66.7 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR @ 310MHz (2,5-2-2-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE! 😉

CPU: PIII-S (SL6BY) @ 1900MHz (181 MHz FSB, AGP @ 72.4 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR(GoodRam) @ 362MHz (2,5-2-3-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver - FAST WRITES off!
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

SAME SPECS BUT DIFFERENT SYSTEM (Win98SE) + FAST WRITES IS ON! (1GB GOODRAM)

default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

15678 points seems to be the current records for this GPU with a Tualatin CPU 😉

VooDooMan wrote on 2025-01-16, 14:32:

UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE! ;) […]
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VooDooMan wrote on 2021-10-01, 06:41:

Here's an update on WinXP […]
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Here's an update on WinXP

CPU: PIII-S (sl6by) @ 1750MHz (166,6 MHz FSB, AGP @ 66.7 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR @ 310MHz (2,5-2-2-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE! 😉

CPU: PIII-S (SL6BY) @ 1900MHz (181 MHz FSB, AGP @ 72.4 MHz!!!)
MoBo: ECSP6S5AT- SiS 635T chipset
RAM: 1GB DDR(GoodRam) @ 362MHz (2,5-2-3-6 timings)
GPU: GeForce 6800GT @ (different clocks ) - 81.98 driver - FAST WRITES off!
System: Windows XP

Default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

SAME SPECS BUT DIFFERENT SYSTEM (Win98SE) + FAST WRITES IS ON! (1GB GOODRAM)

default clocks:

385 / 540 :

430 / 590 (maximum for my card):

15678 points seems to be the current records for this GPU with a Tualatin CPU 😉

Nice tuning!

I bought a N100 mini PC, UHD730 DEV_46D1 and tried 3dMark2001 for fun. With a fresh 21H2, latest driver 32.0.101.6460, 3dmark2001 startup hang patch, I got the following error.

swapBuffer:Present D3DERR_DRIVERINTERNALERROR

Basically you get about 5-10 seconds into the car chase bench then it errors out. Same with the dragon bench if the car is disabled. I had to go back to 32.0101.6078 to find a version that didn't crash. 6130,6299,6314,6319,6325,6332,6449,6458,6460 all had the same problem with 3dmark2001.

The N100 was comparable to a 7500T with CPUz bench, with the N100 using 12W and the 7500T using 17W under max load. 3dmark2001 performance was worse with the N100.

N100 UHD730

13DMark Score	25170
2Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail	477.0 fps
3Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail	58.7 fps
4Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail	472.1 fps
5Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail	193.8 fps
6Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail	450.7 fps
7Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail	102.6 fps
8Game 4 - Nature	203.4 fps
9Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)	2750.0 MTexels/s
10Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)	9666.4 MTexels/s
11High Polygon Count (1 Light)	245.4 MTriangles/s
12High Polygon Count (8 Lights)	116.6 MTriangles/s
13Environment Bump Mapping	914.1 fps
14DOT3 Bump Mapping	511.0 fps
15Vertex Shader	508.1 fps
16Pixel Shader	554.9 fps
17Advanced Pixel Shader	500.4 fps
18Point Sprites	140.3 MSprites/s

7500T UHD630

13DMark Score	33651
2Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail	479.1 fps
3Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail	71.3 fps
4Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail	685.5 fps
5Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail	275.6 fps
6Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail	479.7 fps
7Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail	148.5 fps
8Game 4 - Nature	365.0 fps
9Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)	5880.6 MTexels/s
10Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)	11234.5 MTexels/s
11High Polygon Count (1 Light)	454.8 MTriangles/s
12High Polygon Count (8 Lights)	151.7 MTriangles/s
13Environment Bump Mapping	1173.0 fps
14DOT3 Bump Mapping	807.7 fps
15Vertex Shader	534.6 fps
16Pixel Shader	737.8 fps
17Advanced Pixel Shader	768.5 fps
18Point Sprites	183.5 MSprites/s

Many years since my last result, hardware is trash picked.

With this setup I got 17574 3D marks at default resolution:

• ATI Radeon X300 Pro 128MB DDR @ 525MHz/309MHz
• Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3400MHz 8x425MHz
• Asus P5N-E SLI
• 1024MB DC DDR2 @ 283MHz 4-3-3-1T
• Windows XP Pro SP3

all those screenshots lost 😒

3DM 2001
P4 2.8GHz, 1GB RDRAM and GF FX 5900XT - 11669 pts. ;(

Win98 record :

70826 3D marks
Ryzen 3500X, GTX 650 Ti, Win2k

I also posted this in the 'bought this (modern) hardware' thread.

I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powered beast, but it was cheap & I happened to be in the part of town where the seller was, so I decided to pick it up anyway.

Naturally, the first benchmark I ran was the downright punishing 3DMark... 2001. Funnily enough, it outscored my RX 7900 XTX by nearly 2000 points (the Radeon gets 103,670).

Perhaps one day I'll properly bottleneck the crap out of this card by pairing it with Windows XP and Windows XP compatible hardware--it is the fastest Windows XP-compatible GPU one can get, after all. For now though, I think I'll just use it as a beautiful decorative piece for the office.

Standard Def Steve wrote on Yesterday, 04:24:

I also posted this in the 'bought this (modern) hardware' thread. […]
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I also posted this in the 'bought this (modern) hardware' thread.

I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powered beast, but it was cheap & I happened to be in the part of town where the seller was, so I decided to pick it up anyway.

The attachment IMG_0968.jpg is no longer available

Naturally, the first benchmark I ran was the downright punishing 3DMark... 2001. Funnily enough, it outscored my RX 7900 XTX by nearly 2000 points (the Radeon gets 103,670).

The attachment Screenshot 2025-05-11 220850.PNG is no longer available

Perhaps one day I'll properly bottleneck the crap out of this card by pairing it with Windows XP and Windows XP compatible hardware--it is the fastest Windows XP-compatible GPU one can get, after all. For now though, I think I'll just use it as a beautiful decorative piece for the office.

On Intel 12th gen disabling HT gave me another 3000 points, Any benefit on AMD?

Dothan Burger wrote on Yesterday, 11:29:

Standard Def Steve wrote on Yesterday, 04:24:

I also posted this in the 'bought this (modern) hardware' thread. […]
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I also posted this in the 'bought this (modern) hardware' thread.

I snagged this lovely king of Maxwell GPUs - an EVGA Titan X. I absolutely didn’t need this matter-antimatter warp reaction powered beast, but it was cheap & I happened to be in the part of town where the seller was, so I decided to pick it up anyway.

The attachment IMG_0968.jpg is no longer available

Naturally, the first benchmark I ran was the downright punishing 3DMark... 2001. Funnily enough, it outscored my RX 7900 XTX by nearly 2000 points (the Radeon gets 103,670).

The attachment Screenshot 2025-05-11 220850.PNG is no longer available

Perhaps one day I'll properly bottleneck the crap out of this card by pairing it with Windows XP and Windows XP compatible hardware--it is the fastest Windows XP-compatible GPU one can get, after all. For now though, I think I'll just use it as a beautiful decorative piece for the office.

On Intel 12th gen disabling HT gave me another 3000 points, Any benefit on AMD?

I gained ~700 points by disabling SMT, for a score of 106,280.

GokuSS4 wrote on 2025-04-09, 19:45:

all those screenshots lost 😒

I know! I made the terrible mistake of using an external image host during the early days of this thread. 😒
I do have most, if not all of the old images on my file server. If I ever get the time, I may re-up at least some of the more interesting ones.